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Countainer7b 10-14-2010 02:57 AM

drama
 
first off people for some reason people don't want drama in the guild but why drama brings attention to the guild and expands it. drama keeps the guild from sliding into oblivion. so i ask you do you think drama is bad for a guild?

Chimera Doll 10-14-2010 03:00 AM

It is bad for a guild.
Not only does it split pirates apart but it causes confusion and the huge possibility of one pirate or more leaving the guild.
I don't see how it can be a good thing for usually when it happens the whole guild is effected by it one way or another. Drama free is the way to go!

Red Nations 10-14-2010 03:03 AM

Yep Drama has destroyed a lot of good guilds.

Delirious 10-14-2010 03:04 AM

I agree with Chimera. Drama is not a good thing for a guild.

The only attention drama brings to a guild in my opinion is negative attention.

Jack Shipsteel 10-14-2010 03:05 AM

Guilds are formed to escape the drama and form good friends.

If you want drama, take a trip to Abassa Tortuga.

Tiberius Fireskull 10-14-2010 03:06 AM

I think that you may have Drama confused with being social. Being social is very good for guilds, as it keeps members happy. Drama is bad, because that usually means arguments, which is bad, no explanation needed.

Jibby 10-14-2010 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davy Fireskull (Post 265088)
I think that you may have Drama confused with being social. Being social is very good for guilds, as it keeps members happy. Drama is bad, because that usually means arguments, which is bad, no explanation needed.

Unless the members involved in the drama and/or any other members with a connection to it take something positive away from it and/or come to a conclusion that keep both sides happy/strengthens the relationships on the persons involved.

Stephen O'Malley 10-14-2010 03:15 AM

I don't mind a few guild rivalries - it just means more chances to do some team PVP. However, there is a fine line between game rivalry and personal issues between guilds and their members. Once an issue or dispute crosses over to the personal side, it is only detrimental to a guild.

MacIronhawk 10-14-2010 03:24 AM

It is bad for the guild, and it brings them a horrible reputation. I went into a big guild, when a friend told me about how much the people talked, and how rude the officers were, even though it was a guild of 500 people. I got kicked out because an officer got mad at me during a boss battle for firing at the forts when they told us to stop. They're firing at us... I'm not going to stand back and let us die, fool.

People bring in the tiniest, most insignificant arguments and things to talk about in some guilds that it becomes pointless. You're in a guild where no one likes each other, and silly rumors are spread.

I don't put up with that poo in real life, let alone virtual life. Drama only makes guilds look bad, for me. I tend to stay away from some of the top guilds in the leader boards, because when coming into contact with the guild members they're extremely rude and have nothing nice to say.

Crestshot 10-14-2010 04:12 AM

I shall say this clearly and loudly.

Drama is NOT good for a guild. It causes needless stress on the people in the guild and on the group as a whole. It can and likely will bring the guild a bad reputation, even if they believe they are in the "right". There is no true right side when it comes to these things, so stay out.

I know from first hand experience what drama in the game and in the guild does to you. I've been through too much of it. If I never had to see it again, it would be too soon. Going to bed thinking about the little things in, and I say it again, a game makes no sense, and I don't know why I have ever worried about it. Grey hair in dark hair of someone who isn't old enough to even get it is not fun. If it brings attention to the guild, perhaps it will make it expand with people looking to cause even more trouble. No, I look for quality people to friend and guild, not random people in Tortuga going "Yah, and Jack broke up with me. but he wants me back. but he totally-" blah blah blah. Thanks, but no thanks. Case in point... no drama, please.

Tiberius Fireskull 10-14-2010 04:18 AM

I actually should share a story... there was a guild, not saying names, that I knew somewhat well. I knew a few members from it. It was a small guild but was growing extremely fast, and was active, and a wonderful guild. I would have never thought it would fall. Then, from what I heard at least, there were two people in the guild dating, who had a bit of a messy breakup, as far as messy goes in a game. It wouldn't have been too bad, except one accused the other of dating another person in that guild. Then it was all out war in the guild. Members began to leave because of the drama and anger. Soon enough, the poor guildmaster couldn't take any more of it, and left. She left an officer in charge, but of course, that will never last. The head officer had to leave the guild soon afterward.

I am positive that if it weren't for that, that guild could have easily become a large and well-known guild by now. That is what drama does to guilds.

Igor Greybeard 10-14-2010 05:46 AM

Igor say Drama BADDDDDddddddd !!!!!!!! Igor like adventure !!!!!!


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Ancient Mariner 10-14-2010 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Countainer7b (Post 265072)
first off people for some reason people don't want drama in the guild but why drama brings attention to the guild and expands it. drama keeps the guild from sliding into oblivion. so i ask you do you think drama is bad for a guild?

Yes drama is bad for any guild. As was mentioned in another post you might be confused between drama and being social, there is nothing wrong with a social outgoing guild but a guild filled with drama usually means the end of it.

I have been playing for about 2 1/2 years now and have been in many guilds the #1 reason for pirates leaving a guild or for the guild to fall apart is drama.

Robmac7777 10-14-2010 05:13 PM

Attempting to steer my ship safely after taking hits from a Behemoth on the left, and a Corsair on the right, keeping afloat and saving the Loot. That's about as much Drama as I care for in POTCO.

Rob, aka Jack Aubrey

Charlotte Truebonney 10-14-2010 06:32 PM

I am in agreement with everyone else, drama is not good for a guild at all.

Charles Darkwolf 10-14-2010 07:08 PM

Yeah drama is no good at all. Rule number one of my guild is NO DRAMA, drama = ban!

Quite frankly, I don't have the room in my life to listen to a bunch of drama. If I did, I would try and find a way to get a time machine, and go back to my school years so I could get a heavy dose of it. No thank you!!

Sven Ironwalker 10-14-2010 08:08 PM

I hate drama. I have also seen it destroy a few guilds. I deal with drama every day in real life and I look to the game as a way of escaping it. The worse thing is that drama in the game usually involves really pointless stuff. I am all for being very social but there are some things that just dont belong. If there is a drama issue there is nothing wrong with just moving along and avoiding it... hence why it destroys good guilds.

Captain Del 10-14-2010 08:34 PM

Drama is what killed the original PIC. No matter how we look at it, it comes down to that.

Drama doesn't keep a guild from sliding in to oblivion. It catalyzes the process. To think that drama would actually help a guild is selfishness on those who bring it in to their guild. Fueds, arguments, and all of that take away from the point of the game, to have FUN. By bringing drama in to a guild, you're destroying the precious time of somebody who may actually want to have fun and play the game, let alone get in to virtual fights with others.

Seriously, whats the point of drama/griefing the first place? No matter who "beats" the other person in the "fight," nobody wins. The "loser" walks away with a broken spirit, and the "winner" probably walks away in the worse case; a broken reputation, and a false sense of gratitude that is some of the more pathetic sightings in life.

I used to be a griefer once. Did I think it was fun at the time? Hell yeah I did. Why? Because I thought I was getting back at others.

But now I've learned better. No matter how hard you try to dismantle somebody else, you're really only weakening yourself.

CaptainMonkeys 10-14-2010 09:10 PM

*GASP* *points finger* Griefer! Griefer on Aisle Del!


There are a few ways to define drama.

Drama (1)- Acting, suspense

Drama (2)- Friction between one party and another


(Sources: The CM Dictionary, Published on 10-14-2010, by CaptainMonkeys.)

Countainer7b 10-14-2010 10:08 PM

now it is a small amount of drama which i was referring to. look at this thread no-one has said anything to me for quite a while. i didn't mean huge guild splitting drama the drama i was referring to is dialogue and small arguments if it gets to be to much the guild will die but a guild without dialogue or any amount of spirit will die to. pick your poison withholding on something you need to live or drink it. there is a third option the goldy locks zone(goldy locks zone refires to something being just right) of drama. look at the conclave if things weren't spiced up by anything at all the conclave would be gone drama made del gm drama made every other candidate quit drama and confusion ( to be discussed later)

Jack Shipsteel 10-14-2010 10:59 PM

Countainer.. Drama and heated debate are 2 different things. Having your guild talk to each other is a good thing, having them argue amongst themselves over petty reasons, or even huge reasons, will destroy guilds.

In Conclusion.. to me, any drama is TOO much Drama.

Captain Del 10-14-2010 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Shipsteel (Post 265247)
Countainer.. Drama and heated debate are 2 different things. Having your guild talk to each other is a good thing, having them argue amongst themselves over petty reasons, or even hue reasons, will destroy guilds.

In Conlcusion.. to me, any drama is TOO much Drama.

+1 for Jack.

Slouyx 10-14-2010 11:13 PM

Um, sure, drama brings attention to your guild. What attention? Err, negative names, negative views, trolls, and just plain rude people on the game. All negative attention. You could be a drama starter ( a trouble maker ) or a person who is kind to others and has common sense, getting positive attention for being kind to others. When you have drama in a guild, you automatically start going down hill. Drama does NOT and will EVER keep a guild from sliding into oblivion. Why in the world would you want arguments going on in a guild? It's like having a group of friends, and then they start arguing among themselves, and eventually hating each other. You wouldn't feel the best about that - that's how a guild works. If your guild was always arguing with another guild, or arguing/trolling with each other, then eventually your guild will be "known," but not in a positive way. Trust me, you'll get tired of having drama in your guild. I used to be a griefer as well, and of course at the time it seemed fun. But does it now? No, I regret everything I did/said completely. I tried to keep other guilds and friends from having drama, but now, I'm just not friends at all with people who do drama. It's not worth it at all. " Huge guild splitting drama?" That could be for many reasons, not just drama itself- although the case often is drama. Even small drama is harmful. What do you think is better, being known for your kindness and common sense, or a griefer who likes to start trouble?


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