Disney Trash's Servers...
 

I just talked to Live Chat and it seems that they are getting rid of quiet oceans for good like Cortilles because people didn't "use them alot". Um hello? what happened to the term "quiet and ideal server/ocean". -_- :degen: "Chase: We had to consolidate some server with the least players." "Chase: No they are all offline for good."

I think what they meant to say was, there were too many quiet servers. And I partially agreed with them.

There's no need for having a billion quiet servers, so I'm sure what they did was choose those that were the least populated, and cut them off. That way, they wouldn't anger nearly as many as if they cut of other, more frequented quiet servers (although frequented isn't a proper word to be used in context with "quiet," you know what I mean.)

I was walking around today, and I saw plenty of empty servers, with no signs of life. So for those that like to play on their own time, the options are still available.

i hope there will still be some quiet servers out there or ill go insane from all the crazy ppl haha

What servers did they get rid of?

Server's that Disney got "rid" of...
 

Cortilles, Cozilles e.t.c. Kind of sad but I can't remember the rest of the names of the server's/ocean's that were taken "away" :'( :( :/ :bookishfj7: :piratewheelgo2: :zu02zq::pirate2do0::pirateskull::pirate41: :sadmh9:

......Is Mosona gone.....?

Why would they do a thing like this?

I do see the point in Disney's Chat and in Del's post. Now, could this change be to show "more" ideal/full" servers over the "quiet" servers? Also, lag and freeze is out there and affecting players left and right even in the quiet servers, could this change mean that said monsters will be more powerful or could they be reduced by actually maintaining less servers?

I like playing in quiet servers. so peaceful and can quest

This was the first thing I noticed when I logged on. I always teleport to my fav server as soon as I get on. Gotta find a new favorite now. :Pirate9:

Oh dear, I loved those! It was so nice to find that Darkhart/Treasure Room/Thrall Hall wasn't already taken.

I heard that even Abassa was removed and replaced with Andoso as the head server? Sorry I haven't logged on yet...

More importantly, why haven't they taken servers from toontown? There's one of two things happening right now to explain why.

Either POTCO has lost so much money that they've had to throw out servers to save money, or... wait a second, that's the only reason!

Toontown has millions of players, around 50, and while not all of them are active, that's a lot of players for a game not as popular as WOW. If the toontown developers keep up the good work, they'll have no problems keeping the game alive.

POTCO is losing money, let's face it. How many people are upset that lag has increased because of the reduction of servers? Me!!!!! Dang it, now my graphics are down to medium because of the high amount of players. I WANTED the quiet servers more than anything, and they trashed them!

Disney, get off your lazy butts, and give the POTCO developers ten million dollars for development. Cry all you want, but when they start making billions from a single game, because they have 200,000,000 players, you'll be glad you spent that money on game development.

Disney is the laziest, most undedicated company when it comes to video games. Epic mickey is one of the ONLY good games that they look like they're working on, and that's only the developers hard work, not the big CEO and bosses.

This is the WORST thing they've done since I joined in beta 2. First they lowered the graphics, took away holes in sails, and now this! The people holding the developers back NEED to be fired IMMEDIATELY. There is NO excuse for server reduction, EVER,.

Oh they put back all the old servers?

It's okay. I don't feel anything different about them removing their servers...

Its silly. The whole reason us players liked the quiet servers was exactly why they are called that, they are quiet! If I wanted to be in peace, train alone, or just sit and relax, I would go to a quiet server, and because of the large amount of them, I would almost never have to switch servers. But because they got rid of all those servers, its going to be a lot harder. And Mac, I will quote what Chimera said. Amen to your post! Couldnt have said it any better! They really do need to put more money into this game. Just watch Disney. Just give POTCO some good money, and more devs. Then just wait a few months, and watch as the money rolls right back in. As they say, when you put money into something, you will get it back.

http://www.toontowncentral.com/forum...e-project.html - happened a while back. Might seem like they took away less, but Toontown had fewer to start.

Sigh, they took 2 of the 3 main servers I play on. An if today is any indication of what we have to look forward to... I HATED today. It was next to impossible to get ships or enemies alone. I prefer to play where I don't usually see other people unless I want to. Now everywhere I go even on quiet servers, there are people all over the place. *sighs again* I think it stinks. Yes, the economy isn't great. Yes we should expect cutbacks. But geeze Louise. Kinda would have been nice if they gave us warning. *sniffs* Where are we gonna play poker now?

It's perfectly understandable for a game like toontown to do this, because many toons only get things done in the game when they're on full servers. The game takes nothing but team work if you want to get to 137 laff, so it's understandable, but POTCO is a solo game, why are they pushing us closer together? I don't want to have to tell people, "No, I don't care if you were here first, I'm fighting this boss anyways, because I don't want to jump servers."

I'm just upset that they did this, and it's obvious they lost some money if they had to do this, because even games that are almost dead have more servers than POTCO.

Well, now they can't use "Play in a Quiet Server" for an answer when it comes to questions on Lag.

Monos is gone - where the ETC would schedule events. So, our events are moving to Camaros.

I really think this has nothing to do with the economy. If they were losing money, how is it possible their speed in fixing glitches and releasing content has increased drastically over the past few months? If anything, they may be GAINING money.

I understand what you're saying, regarding that a solo player can presently level up and complete most quests in the game. And it would be so great if Disney maintained enough servers so we all could go to a quiet server where we wouldn't have to see anyone else or just a handful of friends if we desired. To me that seems like an unreasonable expectation, since POTCO is a Massively Multiplayer game. Plus, I'm not sure I am willing to pay as much as it would cost for that privilege to continue, especially since I prefer busy servers. Though, I can relate to where you seem to be: I still haven't, and probably never will, recover from now having to play mini games to repair a ship in SvS. Deal breaker. Reason I went Basic.

While cost probably was a factor in closing down some servers, it is more about reasons like revenue (number of subscribers), the amount of active players, and the amount of time players spend per month playing the game. Regardless, maintaining servers which are not getting used certainly isn't going to solve any money problem. And throwing 10 million at POTCO isn't, in and of itself, going to do anything except postpone the inevitable demise of the game.

The popularity and/or success of ToonTown has virtually no affect on the decisions made about POTCO. And while doing good work is what developers should aspire to, successful business models are what multi-billion dollar companies live and die by. If POTCO is losing money, the business model gets adjusted or the game gets closed. Would you rather play POTCO with an increase in lag / lower graphic quality or not at all?

I think Disney/DIMG does comes across as lazy when they produce junk titles, or fail to realize the potential of an IP like they have with POTCO, but to say they are "undedicated" would seem to contradict the sheer amount of titles they have available and continue to add to, or the fact that they do things like acquire IPs (Club Penguin) and development studios (Junction Point, devs for Epic Mickey). That Epic Mickey sure looks swell.

Hang in there.

Losing servers has nothing to do with money its just that there will be more room and you wont get that much lag anymore we should be happy about this so what they took out 7 or so servers out of 25 or so big deal the game runs a lot smoother now.

The questions is... Is the game smoother and less laggy?

I can understand losing quiet servers, it's just the way of life. But losing an ideal server like MONOS? That used to be ideal half the day! I don't know if Disney is making a good choice or making it much more laggy for many players.. only time will tell. Until then, take some quiet servers for a spin. They may have eliminated a good dozen or so, but you still got others out there.

Grrr. I missed the quiet servers they were easier to find a boss to have on your own.

Ha ha, nope, and guess what that means? We'll probably be seeing a bunch more downgrades in the coming months and Di$ney will try to pass them as "improvements". Owooo, goodie, I want to drive a cardboard box at sea! I can't wait until the sea looks like a blue, flat piece of paper, and clouds turn into floating circles! That sounds fun.

I'm being serious here, Disney needs to turn around... NOW. I was a little skeptical at first about toontown because I thought I'd get bored in no time. Wrong, they took a piece of content that may seem like nothing, a boss battle and a cog HQ, and they can make that last six months if you're an average player. In toontown, laff points matter, and with the amount of content TT has, you'll spend a good two to three years playing the game if you're a moderate player.

Stop downgrading this game Disney, get off your lazy butts, and try to hire some more developers for this game. It's not even funny how AMAZING this game could be, if you just worked on it.

Right now, Disney is the kid at school that does all the work, but doesn't study, and ends up getting C's when he gets into high school, because suddenly homework is now only 10% of your grade, and tests are 60-70%.

Disney, now is the test. Get off your butts and study, or flunk the class.

Mac, you seem to ignore what Disney has been doing the past few months.

The difference between Disney's old style of releasing out content, and how they do it now, is amazingly quicker. They've been pumping out more content than the plugged well in gulf pumped out oil. If they manage to keep the content flowing, I find it pretty hard to think they aren't "studying" up. Hell, in my personal opinion, they've aced every test I've given them since the Inventory update.

A simple cut back in the servers is NOT downgrading the game. Disney saw the amount of servers they had a waste of space - and honestly, it's true. If you took the old ratio of Ideal, to Quiet, it had to have been 1:10, at least. Cutting back on the servers is just saving more time on Disney's hands, so that they don't have to upkeep servers that barely a few people use each day. Not every cutback necessarily means dooms day approaches.

You all need to realize, the only reason you see the Quiet servers so "crowded," is because Disney has just recently released some MAJOR content. As such, populationand activity spikes are expected. So hold your horses, everything should be back to normal in a week or two, when people get back in to the normal cycle of release, play, and complain. After all, we aren't the only ones on this planet who play POTCO, now are we? ;)

And another thing. I think most of you all are caught in the concept that corporate Disney pays for the finances of POTCO. Well, your wrong.

POTCO is left to scrap up whatever money it can, for itself. Between amusement parks, hotels, television stations, and all that stuff, corporate won't exactly be focusing on their gaming industry (especially with Christmas on the way, and families booking their trips to WDW as we speak.) POTCO pays for itself, and doesn't, nor can it rely on the Mouse himself to pay for it. When POTCO tanks, corporate isn't going to do a thing. They'll simply sit back and say "Good, now we can put those guys to work somewhere else!"

Of course, POTCO is not in a tanking state, nor do I see it going that way any time soon. Players I haven't seen in one, even two years are making comebacks. A majority of my basic members are renewing their subscriptions, as well as a lot of mates here on POF. POTCO is entering a boom state, and once they get in to the groove (although I think they already have,) don't expect them to let the opportunity pass them by.

Honestly, this is not the time to say Disney has failed this game. Aside from the bugs that have come with this update, (which the majority seem to fix themselves with a simple log off/on) Disney has done a mighty job at bringing this game back to gusto over the past few months.

Kudos, Mickey!

to something del said about how disney manages which product they work on....I wish they would work on their Disney channel....The Disney channel was sooooo amazing in the 90's

now we have lame shows like Hannah Montana >.>

I don't watch the Disney channel anymore but they should keep the shows that work..its a new generation of kids, they aren't gonna know the movies and shows they are watching are recycled from the 90's and 80's 0_o

Igor wonders
 

Igor wonders if all the servers could handle all the new content. Igor say as some have noted some servers were just off for a day or two. Igor ask is it not possible that some of the servers were old and could not take the new updates. Igor know some of his pcs are getting slower with all the new content.

I find myself not particularly agreeing with Del here. I do however agree with MacIronhawk that Pirates has amazing potential, most of which remains untapped. However, I have my own thoughts.

As for graphics, you guys who say it's going downhill, what setting do you play on? I'm on an HD computer, with Open GL and high graphics. Speaking personally, I find the game beautiful. Since I got this computer I often find myself just sitting on my ship as the sun rises or sets, not doing a blessed thing but watching the sun play across the water. Yes, it's that beautiful.

(Borrowed from my Postcards from the Krewe, this is what I see in game.)
http://www.piratesonlineforums.com/g...756/At_Sea.jpg

Yes, that's just the screenie of it. The water glitters in the light, it's rather amazing actually. And no, it's not just at sea. Characters, buildings, even the chickens on Cuba have more detail than I've ever seen before in game. So I don't know what's up with the graphics complaints, cause I love it.

I don't agree with Del about these updates though. I am of the firm opinion that after nearly three years, there should have been a second story chapter long before now. The POTCO machine has been doing about a million fillers, teasers, and little in game fluffs this last year, really all starting with the last years Muertos Quests. In reality, other than the release of potions, ship repair, and fishing, all of that should have been the progression of the story chapter. It should all have led to Raven's Cove and El Patron as the chapter boss battle. Instead, we get fluff again. And every new player who sets foot in the Caribbean since Constance Sorrow and John Moses left has no clue as to the history that brought us here.

Which, believe it or not brings me back around to the server issue. I'm actually not seeing people come back. Oh, they may drop in once, maybe twice. I'm seeing more people leave than come back. I'm seeing a reduction in play hours, myself included, for many of the people I've been playing with for the year I've been here. We're seeing guilds right here on the forums in slow and or rapid decline. The old guard is still leaving, and they are leaving in droves. The POTCO machine has been empty promises better left unsaid, massive letdowns, and unrealized potential for far too long now.

I'm with some the others, I think there has been a significant enough drop in play that some servers were removed due to disuse. However, I also think Igor makes a very good point. I think it's very possible the servers retired are the original servers no longer capable of keeping up with the higher end of what's coming out now. I think Disney is hiding this and using disuse as the only excuse for the removal, but I'm betting it's both.

Pardon the novelette here, I'm in author mode. But that's my two pieces of eight on the subject.

No, you fail to see through it all, and I'm assuming it's because you haven't been playing online games for 10+ years.

Disney, right now, is in a stage where they spent a good six months to a year on developing content, and then they started releasing it, one right after the other.

Do you think anything else bigger than Raven's Cove is going to come out in less than six months? Probably not. Unless they've been working on ship customization for three years, then I'm not happy. Unless they're reading to throw the Kraken into the game in three months, I'm not happy.

With toontown, you'll be at a dry period where there's no content for about three months during the year, and they'll throw in a bunch of contests, etc... That's all good, because they offer good rewards, like in game shirts so you can brag to your friends. During our dry period, we have lame GM events. Unless they have something big planned, then all we've been experiencing is luck.

They worked on potions, fishing, ship repairing, and the Raven's Cove quest, along with some cool new weapons for the past year, and then they release it. Unlesss they've been working on other big things at the same time, we're not going to see anything good any time soon.

Mac, your theories just might be sound but they seem to rely an awful lot on words like "unless" and "probably". Don't get me wrong. "Unless" you are completely wrong I agree that we will "probably not" get any more updates soon... "Unless" you are completely wrong...

Hard to make a strong argument that way even though I really DO think you're right.

I just don't get the sense of panic that seems to go with thinning out the server farm. I have played on live servers where I was convinced that I was the only one there. It was kind of like realizing that you're the only one in a movie theater and you keep wondering when they're going to tell you, "Sorry. Not worth the money to run this for just you..."

Anyway. Being too wordy. I guess I just think you're right and hope you're wrong.

Exe, when Titanic came out I was more than a tad obsessed. I saw in in the theaters 10 times. (Yes really.) Of those at least 4 I was the only person in the theater, and those were my favorite showings. Same goes for here on Pirates, I have been that feeling like I'm the only one on the server, and I loved it. I don't worry if someone is gonna tag my ship, steal my rep, try flirting with my pirates, and all the other stupid stuff I see on busier servers. Personally, I loved those quiet servers more than anything.

RIP Battassa & Jamilles.

It's hard to explain I guess to the ideal busy server set, but it's like this. Quiet servers it's just you vs the server. It's where if you get in to deep an that thrall captain kills you oop, you're going to jail. To me, quiet servers are the only true test of skill left in game.

I, for one, agree that Disney should have removed a few servers. I am one of the players who like playing on quiet servers, however, there was [I]too many[I] of them in my opinion. Of course, some of these servers were "guild servers" to many guilds, however... there's no problem in just changing a guild server. Besides, it's not like it's your server, it's a server that your guild hangs out on. Anyways, that's not the thing here. I have no complaint about Disney removing servers. A lot of them were just there and had less than a hundred players on them. We still have quiet servers - but now we don't have completely empty servers that really served no purpose. I think it's nice that Disney is cleaning things up now.

Ok but some of the 'guild servers' were servers guilds played on since the launch. No longer having them is like taking away home.

And the whole point of having those "completely empty servers" was so that pirates could go and be alone. I now noitced that almost every other server is ideal, which is too much for me. It feels like test, where there are almost no servers, and there is no way to have any privacy... I emailed them today asking why they removed them... I heard something about them having to be fixed from a guildmate, but I emailed them anyway. When I get the reply I'll make sure to post it here.

There's no problem with change. A lot of people I noticed, don't like when things change on this game. Such as the new islands, people complained about the old Port Royal being gone. I know, I would be a little annoyed if I was in a guild with a guild server, and that server was removed. However, I don't find it being a problem that we'd just choose another server.

Not necessarily meaning that change is bad, its not. However people used those servers to level up alone on, or just hang out alone with friends. Now, it is much harder to find piece and quiet....

It's not so much change in general. It's that it's not what some of us have been waiting for forever and a day. Most of us are still just waiting for a story chapter. Also, if you've never been in a guild with a home server, I can't explain how much like home it gets to feel like after months of playing on it.

TY Chimera, you hit it on the head. There's no real quiet now.

It's not hard for me to find peace and quiet. Even since they removed the servers, I still find myself on a nice, quiet server. Even though now there isn't many ways to avoid other players, I now find it interesting to help a newer player. Usually, when I was on very quiet servers, I would just ignore a player asking for help. But since now we're going to be on the same servers anyway, I would just help them. Even right now, I'm on a quiet server. I still don't really see a problem with Disney removing some servers.
Edit: Yes, I have been in a guild with a home server, and I'm in one now.

Well, I guess some people are lucky lol. I can't find a true quiet server for the life of me. BTW for all of us ticked about the server removals, last year Pixie Hollow slashed their servers too. They got such an enormous backlash over it they were back within weeks.

I wouldn't want to have a giant backlash against Disney for removing servers. They were just cleaning up the game. It probably makes updating the game a lot smoother for them.

I believe they are already getting a huge fight about this. The thing is, POTCO is a game, its a product. Its purpose is to make the customer happy. Clearly this isn't. From a business standpoint this was a very bad idea.

What Slou and I are trying to say is.. is there really a reason to fret over this?

I myself prefer quiet servers. Do you see my throwing a fit about this? Well, no. And why is this?

Because, believe it or not, there are still plenty of empty servers, even on Ravens Cove, on a Saturday, in the afternoon, a few days after it's released. My proof? I'm standing on it as I post this. There are empty servers out there - just requires a little elbow grease.

I will say it again. Understand, this update is fresh and new. Of course all the servers are gonna be packed. But, give it a week or two, and then go to a quiet server, and see what you find.

And, let me ask all of you this. Are you posting against this because you have a real hate against this, whether your gaming is lagging more, or whatever - or did your favorite server get removed? I'm not necessarily saying that the later is the case for everybody here, but there's no doubt in my mind that's the reason for a few.

Actually, I'm just trying to explain why it is some of us would rather not see other players in game. Yeah, I suppose if you server hop constantly you could find an actual quiet server. I'm saying I preferred when they were easy to find, and you actually didn't run into other people.

That's the thing. I didn't have to. I was at a server, some people came and destroyed the enemies I was attacking, so I moved to the next one - still nice and empty.

Less servers means faster loading speed. That's a PLUS! I can get into the game within 5 minutes!

Yeah but my point is it's not that easy for some of us. Personally, in game, I have awful luck with servers thanks.

Even on the most "quiet" servers, I would run into people. A lot of players want to be on quiet servers, which mean your "quiet servers" become busy. It's nearly impossible to avoid. I still don't see a big issue with Disney removing servers, and I agree with Del. The "busy" servers we have now will probably clear out a few weeks after this update.
I don't base finding quiet servers on "luck." If I'm looking for a quiet server, I go to ones I usually know are quiet. If they aren't, then okay, I keep switching. I don't have a problem with that. You cannot avoid that issue, more or less servers there is. It's an online game. You're going to see other people and may have to interact with them.

I suppose we are just going to have to agree to disagree on this. I fail to see the point of continuing to draw swords when people aren't willing to see both sides.

We aren't disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing. We're stating what we believe in. I apologize if I came off as "aggressive" in any way, but I feel that I should have a right to preach my views with the charisma and gusto of any other poster or speaker, or whatever.

I see your point, and I'm willing to listen to what you have to say. But then again, our views should recieve the same respects.

I dont becaus ei hate lag and it hates me. Just like getting booted from ideal servers!

Im just worried about the servers during invasions.... o_o not pretty..

I don't even need an invasion. I'm getting booted constantly from 'quiet' servers now. Three times got booted out of El Sud. So not running back there again.

I honestly have my highs and lows of this update. Im getting more complaints from people like " Can you please leave rep stealing NOOB i was here first " or
"dude if you dont leave im gonna report you" and "i work for dinsey you better get out of here NOOB" im getting tired of these lies and bickering.Also more lag,booted more often and rep stealing.Ive had enough!:degen:

On the other side you get Faster loading,Get to meet new pirates,less of a chance of not being knocked out. But from this some what minor change of the servers only few good things happen for us, Yet i bet dinsey is having one amazingly good time with saving money sooner or later there gonna have to put the servers back.

And therein lies the problem. In my opinion, your request isn't really a reasonable one. There is no way in the world that Disney will keep servers open so pirates can have their own private little islands. Period.

There are no "guild servers" and to say that cutting costs is a bad business move doesn't take into consideration that business is bad right now. But like so many other online games, the option to lease a server isn't a bad one. That way a guild could really have their own little sandbox to play in.

Slouyx and Del are right. This really is non-issue. I just logged off. Out of 57 servers, 23 were ideal and none were full. That leaves 24 basically empty servers. 2 1/2 years ago, half the servers wouldn't be empty. Ever. Business is a little slow right now and keeping dead servers open and paying for the maintenance and electricity and upgrades makes less sense.

But look at it this way. Faster, more streamlined updates are a real possibility, aren't they? Not to mention the loading times...

If the reduction in servers means more money to spend on game content work, then I'm perfectly fine with that, but only IF that's what they're doing. Of course there's no way of knowing what they're doing with the extra money since they don't have to maintain those servers; we can only guess, really.

I'm fine with this myself, but they got rid of a server I visit a lot, Fraguilla, it looks like. Also making it harder cause there are less quiet servers, I stick to quiet to prevent lag.

You guys say that there are faster loading times now... my loading times have gotten slower... and I'm running on a good computer, with good internet connection... I still hope they put about half the servers they got rid of back. Just half. There are too few now, but perhaps there were too many in the beginning.

Let's look at this from a logical stand point, for anyone saying the loading times are faster.

They've cut back on servers, meaning at least half of the servers are gone. They've also released the Raven's Cove quest, and added in new quest features, which drags the server loading down, because one person may be able to see Senor Clucks as the chicken, or as the ghost. That's some work on the server to be done.

Now, we also have to think, players have been condensed into a smaller area, meaning there's more players per server now than there was before the update.

Loading times aren't faster. I've noticed them to be slower by about 20 seconds on my computer. Loading was lightning fast before the update, but my loading speed went way down, almost scary low.

^ Exactly! Since the fishing update, I noticed a slight decrease in my game performance. Once this came out, BOOM. Lag lag lag lag lag lag lag. Lag and loading screens that take at least twice as long as they used to. It started when the fishing update happened, so I'm almost positive it isn't my computer. If Disney thought cutting back servers would help increase lag, it isnt...

Isn't it just possible that they are cutting back in order to just keep the game going? Or to save a job or two on their team?

And are HALF the servers really gone? This isn't a dig or anything. I just don't have a feel for the number of servers they used to have, pre-Raven's Cove.

Maybe they're trying to get a dev or two to help with the development with the game instead of server maintenance.

I am not getting any decreased performance from the game. I rarely get lag on this game, and from what I've seen fishing and recent updates have done nothing to decrease game performance for me. I doubt removing servers had anything to do with decrease in game performance.

raven's cove has made everything glitched. i don't get any rare weapon drops... blade storm is glitched...so many glitches.

And that's why I'm upset. If they're trashing servers to save money, then odds are the game isn't making near the amount of money they need to pay developers, maintain servers, and then profit later.

It's frightening that they even had to think about cutting servers off to save money. This is where I stop to think, "Should I keep paying for this game? If it dies, then the 80 bucks a year I spent went to what? The trash? If I'm going to pay and play a game, I want to KNOW that it will be there for a very long time. Why? Because, to me it's just a waste of money if I can't play the game when I paid for it.

I buy a console game, and I have it forever. But with an online game, if the company messes up, I can't do anything about getting back on the game to play. It's gone, and trashing servers only makes me think they're losing money, and I don't want to be upset if the game dies, knowing I spent 360+ dollars.

^ Agreed. I really hope that this game doesn't go under. If it does, I don't know what I will do. I have played this game since November of '07, and I have become attached to it. I almost feel as if I "own" the game, for lack of a better word. Not own as in "GET OUT OF HERE! THIS IS MY GAME!" I mean own as if this game is a big part of me, and that I know the game inside and out. I really hope this game stays for a long while...

Igor ask has anyone tried live chat with Disney to ask they why. Igor know they usually not have straight answers but maybe this time they just say why they did this?

Mac, I hope I didn't sound the least bit happy about this latest go-round with POTCO. But I have been saying for a while that their little experimental movie promotion is losing steam. I would hate to see it go but I won't cry over spilled milk...or the money I have spent over the past 2 1/2 years. I paid it and enjoyed what I got. They don't owe me a thing. Heck, they even kept me out of the DVD rental store some weekends. My 10 bucks a month isn't an investment. It's a user's fee.

Can anyone answer this for me? Out of curiosity?

How many servers were there before they thinned out the herd? No guesses. Anyone have the number?

Look at your profile, when you go to edit it, you can choose your favorite server. There may be a few servers missing, but it's not guessing. I probably messed up, but I counted over 100 (102), and I counted 57 or so currently remaining in the game.

Just saying, I don't mind them removing a lot of the servers. It doesn't bother me, and I still find half the servers to be empty.

They have population spikes because of Raven's Cove, in a week or two the population will go down.

Wow you guys are harsh. My take on it is that you cant really guess as to why they took the servers down but it does not mean that the game is going under. Based on other posts made in the forum it does not look like Disney has completely given up on things.

As a person that specializes in marketing technology such as this and having years of experience in it I can honestly say that the marketing of POTC is not what it should be and there is a lot of untapped potential. I hope that they do recognize this at some point. They seem to be totally lost when it comes to marketing online games however because of the way the corporate structure of Disney appears to work some of the issues kind of makes sense to me.

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Igor think Disney go GREEN :laughks2: Igor say now half the servers half the electric for use and cooling. Igor it is just the way it is.


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Here is the reply I got from Disney.

Ahoy _____,

Thank you for contacting Pirates of the Caribbean Online.

The issue you are experiencing is only intermittent. When we release an update or have a site maintenance, we schedule it during off hours, usually between 12:00 AM and 3:00 AM PST. We work very hard to keep the servers up outside of these maintenance hours. However, sometimes unforeseen events force them to shut down at other times. In most cases, the servers will restart themselves within a few moments.

We apologize for any inconvenience we may have caused you while the Pirates Online servers were down, and hope to see you in the Caribbean again soon!

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Pirates of the Caribbean Online Member Services


I don't think that the person who replied exactly understood my question, however I am glad they answered. I think this person thought I meant the servers were down, not completely gone. Maybe later I will send another email with slightly different wording, but not now...

And SOS, where there really 100 servers? I always thought forty or so....

I thought there were only around 40 as well... O_o Maybe he meant TT. I know they have quite a lot.

Go edit your profile, below your character stats you can see a "Favorite Server" area. Every server that's been in the game (possibly less than the actual total, I know a few were missing at various times) is listed there, and if you count it up, there's well over 40. Even count the servers currently in the game, there's still more than 40 servers. Just to add, I could have counted wrong, but you get the point.

I guess that really shows there were too many servers.

This is stupid they should keep the servers so ppl like me who laga alot can play the game lag free


Well the holes in the sails were casuing extreme lag and so were some of the other old graphics its better they removed them but look at all the great things they've did and compare that to the bad ( the good far outweighs the bad )

Christopher... holes in sails didn't cause a huge amount of lag as far as I know. I haven't had any significant lag ever in the game, until the fishing update, long after holes in the sails were removed. Its not better that they removed them, however I do agree that the good outweighs the bad. We should be grateful for what we have. I for one, am hardly ever mad about what we don't have, however I do get upset when they take something away.

The only reason I'm upset is because taking away the servers wasn't necessary. Maybe they get to keep a few extra bucks in their wallet but look at it this way.

POTCO is just a side thing for Disney, right? They're not going to take money from Disneyland and give it to POTCO, because they profited that money, and they need to keep Disneyland running.

So why can't POTCO make it's own money? Why can a game like WOW or Wizard 101 come out of no where and start making more, and producing more than a Disney game? Why? Is it because Disney stinks when it comes to online game development?

I didn't even hear about WOW until about two years ago, and I thought it was lame, until I saw the hours of gameplay, and the comments about how amazing it is. Some random company called Blizzard comes out and makes a great online game, with content that will last you years. The game will probably be around even when I die, that's how much the developers are dedicated.

Why is Disney suddenly the little boy that doesn't know what he's doing when it comes to an online game? They have Panda3D for crying out loud, and they can't even release content fast. My patience isn't running low, I'll continue to play the game until they shut it down, but what I want to understand is why they're being passed by companies that came out of the blue with a good idea. What happened to Disney's creativity? If Walt Disney were still alive today he'd probably think the amount of work they've put into POTCO is pathetic.

POTCO is aiming for a C, while other games are aiming for an A, and billions of dollars a year. Again, I love POTCO, and the release of Raven's Cove has even made me think it's better than it was when it opened, because they look like they're working on interactive content, instead of a list of chores to do. But, it's not fast enough. I'd like to play this game for a long time(probably makes me sound like a lazy guy living in his moms basement), and it's just not moving as fast as other online games. If they can't speed up the release of content, then the game isn't going to last.

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Igor says YEAH what Mac said !!! Igor has thought same thing. Igor has also looked around at other places to spend Greybeards gold!!!!

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they made my looting server turn into an ideal server ( Navermo) or however u spell it - sniffles-

Great post MacIronhawk and all great questions. I did a little research and although things did improve they lost millions last year. They have restructured management to cope with the problem. The way I see it if they are still loosing money after all these years and still throwing money into then its an area where Disney really really wants to have a place in it. Its just to bad that they dont really understand the market and are kind flying blind. Hopefully with the new management in place they have the foresight to make decisions that create content and look at things overall from a better perspective and dont decide to trash the things that are currently in place.

Sigh, the "quiet" servers still aren't. It was so bad last night that even after several server hops people kept interfering in JM's Raven's Cove quest. JM is 44, he can handle it no problem. Finally got just so sick of it I logged. And that's just last night. Sunday night...

Sunday night was awful. I had my GM pirate in, and she's 32. I got to the part about defeating ghosts at the same time in front of the southern idol. Well she's 32, and some of them were spawning 40. Even with a 37 me, I still needed backup, so we ended up with a pretty good size crew in a desperate attempt to keep my 32 alive against these guys. When along comes some random girl blasting away while I was trying to finish. We ask politely, hey could you let me finish quick please, and that would have been the end of that, I would have finished, we would have left, she could have had at all she wanted. She didn't answer me. I said, hey, there are more guys close by, my quest says I have to have these, can ya just let me work here. No answer.

Now, after having been at it for well over an hour already and being unable to time it right, I was annoyed. So when she still didn't answer my little GM did yell at her, an told her we had been there first and to go away. No answer. Yeah, at this point most would pick up servers. I had changed servers already four or five times looking to find a place to work with no luck. By that point I was thinking why does it have to be ME that moves every time. My stubborn streak kicked in, an I wasn't going anywhere thank you.

Well, after almost a half hour of Connie yelling at her trying to get her to talk, a pirate tps to her, an all I could think was oh nice now we're gonna have a war. But here it was a little 21. He took one shot an down he went. I had no problem with him, so both my pirates, and several others in the crew did everything we could to keep him alive, or revived. He was a perfectly decent pirate, and rather nice actually. He wasn't to fond of her behavior either, and as it turns out, he was her GM!! Well, one of my crew finally gets the girl to talk, an she says she was working a quest too. I said then why didn't you just say so we could have worked together and been long done. No answer. My crewmate says, ok, so we take turns, let Connie finish then you can have it all to yourself. Except by then I so didn't trust her, so I said she could go first. So she went back at it. What weapon did she pull? The Spinecrest sword. She had been lying, and had already finished the quest. Very nice.

Well, even after she agreed to finish and let my pirate work this girl kept at it for quite a while, an by now I personally was staying to keep the little guy alive. She's got several of the crew and also her GM telling her she agreed to take turns when was she gonna let me have mine. An when she finally answers, starts yelling at us that we don't own the game we don't own the server she has just as much right to be there as we do. Nothing she said could have ticked me off more than that. By her own admission we had the right to be there, yet she was refusing to take turns and play nice. Her own statement was I had the right to be there, just like her. She was blasting me for asking her to let me work, then all the time just standing there doing everything in her power to drive me off the server. There is nothing I hate worse than hypocrites, and this girl was of the highest order. I had to wait nearly two hours for her to leave, finally. Yet her GM had the decency to not only repeatedly apologize for her behavior, which I told him every time he wasn't at fault for, but to stay and try his hardest to help keep Connie alive while she tried again.

This is what the server reduction has done. It's put all those belligerent hypocritical I have a right to be here an so do you but you don't get to use your right pirates in the same space as us normal decent players. It's put the mean vindictive people in the same space as those of us who just want to play. Far far worse it's put the rep stealing pushy people in the same space as fresh of the dock for the very first time brand new players. These rude people, rep stealers, and all together pushy pirates might just all together push potential new money right out of game. Yeah, I have a major problem with that.

I agree! I believe you've gotten on my good side JM.

JM, I'm really sorry for that... the only thing worse than a rep stealer is a rep stealer that ignores you and finally answers after a really long time only to yell at you. No other comments other than that stinks, and they need to add those servers back.

Well as The Joker says/said in The Dark Knight "It's all part of the plan." -.-

Ugh, this is awful. Can't they have, maybe 10-18 more servers? I'm glad Navermo is still there, but a quiet server is never quiet anymore.

Well i had the worst lag you'd ever seem when the old grapics were around if i went sailing id crash if i went on the svs isles id crash if i looked at the ships they lowered the grapics because it was happening to alot of people but they added more effects like the fog around the sails when you start to move and the best thing they've done is removed servers it will save money for new updates and i mean come on 100 servers witch could cost a lot just to maintain that ppl almost never use i think disney is doing a great job i wouldnt be surprised if this game winds up winning a mmo award next year and if your worried about the problems with the accounts right now thats because they didn't account for the large masses of players when ithe update was on test and believe me this problem wasnt on test and if you pay attention to the ppl on test who have new ships if u examine them u can see disney is fixing them they have fixed lots of glitch and are working on the cannons of the ship of the line now i wouldnt be surprised to see them on live VERY soon :mat::mat::mat::mat::mat::mat: