The Pirate Conclave
 

The Pirate Conclave (or as some of you know it as, the "guild collective") is a gathering of guilds founded on the sole-purpose of uniting the guilds of the Caribbean, through friendship, simpathy, and all-around fun!

The Conclave and it's guilds, once managing to get off the ground, will regularly partake in events, held by myself, or any particular guild who wishes to host an event themselves, such as Ship Races, Tag, Raids, and a bunch more stuff (as in, game ideas) that rolls around in me dusty old head! Although these events are mainly for Conclave guilds, we will encourage any guild or pirate who is interested in joining, come with us to experience the great atmosphere we hope to build in this establishment!

This gathering also serves the purpose of helping other guilds get along, and develop their guilds under the guidance and advice of their fellow Guildmasters (should they choose to take it, of course.) Although we believe in Conclave and what it is, we all must put our own guilds first, savvy? ;)

The Conclave has a specific set of rules and guidelines that MUST be followed by all participating guilds and pirates, to ensure these waters sail smoothly. Please remember, once the Conclave has grown member-wise, these rules may be subject to change, via voting.


- RESPECT YOUR FELLOW GUILD! One of the main components of this Conclave is respecting those other guilds that participate in the Conclave. Whether you have a past with another guild, or disagree with what they do or who they are, conflicts are to be left at the door. Any conflicts that arise between two guilds in the Conclave, whether in or out of the events held by ourselves, may leave both guilds subject to ejection from the Conclave!

- Try to get involved! What's the purpose of joining this here Conclave, if all ye do is sit back and watch the show? We highly encourage each and every guild to do their best to stay active in the on-goings of the Conclave. However, please keep in mind, involvement in the Conclave should NOT be a main priority. Having to be inactive for an amount of time due to guild/real life issues is highly understandable, and accepted.

- This Conclave is not in anyway an alliance between guilds! This Conclave is simply for the purpose of bringing guilds together in a wholesome enviroment. If you join this Conclave, do NOT expect anything out of your fellow guilds, other than fun-spirits and a welcoming vibe. Any actions taken by Conclave guilds to help other guilds, whether in conflicts with other guilds, sustaining peace within a guild, or anything that could involve sticky and ugly situations, is NOT sponsored by this court.

- This Conclave is, and always will be, run democratically. Each and every guild is equal in power, no matter size, nor age, nor status, and will all have a say in the functions of the Conclave. I myself am simply here to make sure everything runs smoothly. Don't see me as "The Head" - see me as the chaperone ;)

Once again, keep in mind, these rules are subject to change. Failure to abide to these rules may result in ejection from the Conclave.


The central area of organization in The Conclave is a guild (which will hopefully have the same name as this here place,) which is run by my baby pirate, Captain Lawrence Prince. This guild serves as a way for all the members of the Conclave to communicate easily, as well as allow myself to keep track of who is in it, and who isn't.

When a guild wishes to become a part of The Conclave, they must submit an application form (which can be found near the bottom of this page) stating all of the information that is listed in that form. Once submitted, the application will be viewed over by myself, and the other guilds of The Conclave. This is to ensure nobody has any problems with said guild joining. Currently, I mainly deal with the applications, with insight from the Guildmasters, due to the small size of the Conclave. As we expand, however, we will discuss more actively each and every applicant.

After a guild has joined the Conclave, the Guildmaster of that guild, or a representative of the guild, may send in a baby pirate (preferably one that relates to the name of the guild it represents) to become officially part of The Conclave.

Whenever we get the chance, we will be holding various events that allow for all the Conclave's guilds to come and enjoy themselves. Occasionally, we will have in-game meetings, but these meetings will usually be short and painless, unlesss a very important issue is at hand.


If you wish to join the Conclave, please copy and paste the application form below, fill it out, and post it on this thread.


*Events outlined in RED have passed.*

Well, that's about it for now, mates. Any questions or concerns, please ask :)

~ Del

I'll go in for McRaging I guess....

Name of Guild: McRaging
Guildmaster: Eric McRage
Pirate/Representative to be sent in: Raaem the Spirit
Size of Guild: 500
How Old is Your Guild? About 2-3 years.
Do you agree to follow the General Rules and Guidelines of The Pirate Conclave? (Mark yes or no with an "X")
Yes: X
No:

Name of Guild:O'fury's Court
Guildmaster:Tom O'fury
Pirate/Representative to be sent in:Will O'fury (GMs baby pirate)
Size of Guild:53 due to recent fueds
How Old is Your Guild? Over a year
Do you agree to follow the General Rules and Guidelines of The Pirate Conclave? (Mark yes or no with an "X")
Yes:X (so tempting to say no hehe hust to see what is done)
No:




I also would like to know if there ever will be leaders for here to run things? different groups assigned to differen't things? such as
A disaplianary group
An event planning group
Forums leader
And in game leader?

Just wondering....

And this doesn't affect if i'm joining or not. Just need to know how much i want to partake in this here thingy :D



And Dog of course you should ask your GM first your using his name and what if he disagrees with what this stands for highly unlikely but still i would ask :D

First off you have to ask your gm to join also this is an olagarchy to not just a democracy. Also shadow sorcerers is all ready in the collective conclave whatever you call it so I assume Davy fireskull won't have to rejoin.

Yes ther will be a Group basically at the head of the conclave the console which will include 3 permanent members and elected memembers also olagarchy means rule by few sorry for the confusion.

Name of Guild: McRaging
Guildmaster: Eric McRage
Pirate/Representative to be sent in: Captain Celtics
Size of Guild: 500
How Old is Your Guild? Almost 3 years I think
Do you agree to follow the General Rules and Guidelines of The Pirate Conclave? (Mark yes or no with an "X")
Yes:X
No:

olagarchy is a big word for me tiny brain hehe

so when shall we be electing members and when can we put our names in the hat for that drawing?

Glad to be a part of this. Lets see how this goes. And Del, love the name of the guild you chose mate! PM me a code, and I will join on my representative pirate, The Shadow Sorceror. By the way, is this guild only for the guildmasters? Or can Co-Gms also join?

Well elect members when more guilds are in the collective also only gms can sign up there guild for the conclave. As for the permanent members of the counsal it will ne any guild with a sub fourm

Information no longer valid unless someone wants it spicificly in which case it will be reconnoitered as both del and I now relize it wasn't the best idea

permanent members of the counsal? what is their role? and does the sub forum have to be on this site? :D

Igor
 

Igor waves. Igor glad to see this coming along :dancetl6:

The subfourm has to be on this site

I have a quick question. I would like to be involved in this, but I am a member of many different guilds. If I were to join, would I be a representative from all of these guilds? Also, would I have to place all of my guild information down in an application?

Council member guilds have to have a sub-forum here? There are only three guilds with sub-forums. PNC, BBK, and Dueces wild. Doesn't that limit your choices for council members?

P.S. Well written thread Captain Del.

No those are the permanent members of the counsel minus pnc

So for clarification purposes, only members of DW and BBK can be permanent council members? What if those two guilds don't want to join the Conclave? I don't mean to stir up trouble, I'm just curious if having a sub-forum here is really that important.

Name of Guild: Partners....

Haha, just kidding. I'll probably put Tree in there, if that's okay with you, Del. :3

Countainer, just because a guild has a subforum, doesnt make them a guild worthy of the council. Personally, if I were to choose between having Del in my council because he is on the forums, or Eric McRage, I would have to choose Eric. He may not be on the forums, but he has a mighty guild. No offense intended at all Del, just saying that there are many mighty guilds without subforums.

Allow me to clear up the confusion....

An oligarchy is a government that is run by a few, with those claiming the power having some form of social power or ranking. This, is not what I want the Conclave to be. It makes everything sound to... out of touch, between those who lead and those who join. And I am certainly not giving anybody more power over another just because they're guild is "popular." Basically everybody on this site knows I am a strong advocate for the small, unrecognized guilds out there, who also do their part. Those guilds are where the future lie, which is why I'm going to ensure EVERYBODY has equal power in this gathering of guilds.

In order to make sure this is all O.K. with the actual guilds being represented, it would be nice if ONLY the Guildmaster of the guild itself signs up.

The guilds that wish to be represented can choose rather they want their Guildmaster to send in a pirate, or a representative. However, to avoid mass confusion, I ask that you don't shove too many members in to the Conclave. 3 would be the biggest amount I recommend.

Crest, in your case, I would prefer if you only represented 1 of the guilds your in. Having one represent many would be a huge clutter. So, possibly, you could work something out amongst the guilds your in on who will send in who.

Having a subforum really isn't all that important. It's just a better way to advertise your guild, keep everything organized, and so forth. As such, we will NOT be basing membership statuses on subforums.

P.S. None taken, Davy ;)

Probably, if the GM says it's okay, you can post a screenie of the chat saying he approves.. or something.. idk. If the GM isn't on POF, that is.

~CM

I think we should vote upon council members based on the person NOT a sub forum or how popular the guild is

I agree and obolish permanent members based on if they have a sub forum there still maybe perminet members but who and for what resion will be disused at a later date.

With permission via the rest of the guilds involved i'd like to place my name in the hat for a Database leader. If we happen to have one... My maps and enemy locations and dig spots could come in handy

Name of Guild: Spania
Guildmaster: Carlos
Pirate/Representative to be sent in: Spanian
Size of Guild: 480+
How Old is Your Guild?: About 2 years
Do you agree to follow the General Rules and Guidelines of The Pirate Conclave? (Mark yes or no with an "X")
Yes: X
No:




I wish there was a thread just for applications, and minimum info (for these who already know what is this about), to avoid the clutter; and other place just do discuss questions, and all sort of details for the process to be more organized, some times these deals just distract the applicants or makes the thread large and more difficult/time consuming to go through

We really can't post that many threads that have to do with one thing, unless we have a subforum. It's clutter to the boards.

Yes, we should try to apply for a subforum in the future. It would help keep things organized. By the way Del, my pirate is ready. Shoot me a PM with a code and I will join ASAP.

Could you please clarify what you ment by that.

Clarify? um ok..... A Pirates Online Database is what can hold a vareity of things weapons skill cards maps of islands marking emeny locations and dig spots. All these i have access too and if a subform is created i'd be more than happy to post those along with tutorials for the guilds in the collective to use to help better their knowledge about this game.

Oh ok go ahead then

After looking over the information pertaiining to both guilds, I would like too welcome McRaging and Spania to The Pirate Conclave!

Just popping in to say what a great idea! I'm looking forward to these future events, they sound like fun!:)

What are these perminet members? your thinking people will stay forever? its a good thing to wish that way but things change people stop playing just look to the brethren court they thought they would be there for a long time and ended up not

Container you say that everyone is equal yet to me it seems as though you are trying to put yourself and Del up ahead... While Del forces himself back down as an equal.... Maybe i am just missinterpeting...

Name of Guild: Eternal Warlordz
Guildmaster: Isaiah Ropeswine
Pirate/Representative to be sent in: Will Warhawk
Size of Guild: 270
How Old is Your Guild? 4-5 months
Do you agree to follow the General Rules and Guidelines of The Pirate Conclave? (Mark yes or no with an "X")
Yes: X
No:

Cool! I'll sign up The Elite Dragon Squad

Name: Elite Dragon Squad
GM: Dragonite (Dragoniteiscool)
Pirate Representative: Joe (Captain Jason)
Age: About a year old
Size: About 500 (Changes from time to time)
Do you agree to follow the General Rules and Guidelines of The Pirate Conclave? (Mark yes or no with an "X")
Yes: X
No:

Any news on the conclave? my pirate has bee waiting for instructions, he is all sad all by himself (with no guild)

PM's are being sent out tonight - I felt that, because the majority of us are unable to spend a lot of time online during the weekdays, I would hold off the codes until the weekend. But while I'm at it...

First off, The Elite Dragon Squad and Eternal Warlordz have been accepted in to the Conclave! Welcome, mates!

Also, I will be posting the details on the Conclave's first official event either tonight or tomorrow, depending when I find the time to do so. Be sure to keep an eye on this thread, mateys!

P.S. Everyone is equal, no matter who they are or what guild they're in, and that's final.

hasn't this(guild alliances) already been done before? it failed, epically 0_o

Of course there has. But this really isn't an alliance - it just a gathering of guilds, that like to come together and partake in events. Whatever your percieving it as, I'm sure your looking at it not as the way it actually is :)

And, besides, you know me, Kris. Just because it has failed before, doesn't mean that'll stop me ;)

P.S. Way to go on post 999 - just one more!

It is not the same thing; but if it was -
Well it depends, if the people who run it fail the thing is gonna fail no matter what. If you are gonna blame anyone OR anything, I think it should be the people who failed, I mean seriously?. not the actual things. Things don't work on their own until people make it work. But that doesn't mean that instantaneously you would have to assume and say something would fail, just because it failed before, when the dynamics are different, but chances are, and changes are for it to succeed as well. If we use real world logic you would have to learn from the mistakes, and see what specific piece failed in the first place. Doesn't means you have to throw away a Mercedes just because it has a flat tired .. you know..

Don't blame the homework for not doing itself.. blame the kid for not doing the homework..

ahh and WTG.. congrats for 1,000 posts! :pirate2wn0:

Raid on Raven's Cove!
 

As a way to officially kick off The Pirate Conclave, I invite all guilds with The Conclave to join us for a night of good, ole fashion, pirate fun!

We'll be sailing out to the dreaded island of Raven's Cove, where we will explore the remains of the devasted island, putting to rest any of those pesky Rage Ghosts that be crossing our paths! We will then ascend our way up the lift, where we will proceed our way on to the rope bridge for a screenshot (yes - the first official picture of the Conclave! Be sure to look spiffy!) After that, we'll get down and dirty, and head in for our final assault - an all-out raid on El Patron's Mine! And, if we're lucky, we may even get a chance to do battle with El Patron himself!


First off, all members of The Conclave, and their guild mates, are welcome to join. As long as a guild joins and is accepted before the date of the event, they can also join in. ONLY Pirates that are in a Guild that is within The Conclave may attend!

We will be meeting up at Tortuga, down by the main docks, on the Capellago server. I will be crewing up with the Guildmasters/Representatives of each guild, so that communication can flow from me, to them, and their guilds. I expect that each guild will be there at least 10 minutes before we head out of port, so that we can get organized, and start everything on time. If your late, we will not be waiting for you!

EACH AND EVERY PIRATE IS TO BE ON THEIR BEST BEHAVIOR! If a pirate acts out, or misbehaves, the guild they are from may recieve punishment!

The information pertaining to the event is as followed:


*Please note, I will at times have to talk in Local Chat. So, I stress that any chat that is not related to the event and what I happen to be saying, is to be kept in Guild Chat. Cooperation by all pirates is needed!*

Let's hope that we can make this first event great! See ye there, mates!

as we have a few member guilds i think it's time to establish the counsal. though elcetions won't ocure for quite a while i think it is time to establish the basics of the council. also this council was established at the same time as gm became an elected office (see the old thread).

Awesome! Better start leveling...

And Captain Del, do we have to join the pirate conclave guild or can we stay in the one we're representing?

If by that, you mean which pirate you use for the event, you can use your regular pirate, so long that it's in a guild I can identify as in the Conclave :)

Also, Countainer, I'm confuzzled - what exactly is the purpose of this "council"?

Still just a little bit confused, sorry for not understanding. So I can keep that pirate in the guild it's in, and put another pirate in the pirate conclave?

Yes Jason - when you filled out the form, you put down a pirate that will be put in The Conclave, to act as your guild's representative. Of course, the pirate being put in should not be the GM pirate itself, for obvious reasons - basically, a baby pirate.

:dancetl6:Looking forward to the event Captain Del! Sounds like a smashing good time!

Got it Del, joining now.

i would die... so... i might come if i can and allowed.... write me down as a maybe :D

May pirates that are not members of official Conclave guilds attend your events. I am just curious and understand if this is a closed event. I don't know if I could make it anyway, but I wanted to ask.

We would prefer if members of the Conclave were the only mates who attended. However, I wouldn't mind if a pirate or two outside of the Conclave showed up, to "sample" what we're all about.

We will also occasionally have events that are open to all pirates.

Igor jumps up and down!!!
 

Igor would like to get sample invite :agapirateju3: Igor say Igor and Helga the GMs of Honorable mates would like to see how this is going to work. Igor would like to ask for special permission to attend the event. Igor say ty



:pirate41: :pirate41: :pirate41: :pirate41:

A question first couple of questions, then an application submission.
Can a Conclave representative pirate be a basic access pirate?

My unlimited account is full of higher level pirates at this time and I do not wish to move any of those from the guilds which they are in. I'd prefer to create a basic baby pirate as my Conclave representative pirate.

Also is there a minimum size requirement for the guilds of which these pirate represent? My guild has been dormant for nearly two years, but that is subject to change.

Name of Guild: Red Nations
Guildmaster: Mike Tahlequah
Pirate/Representative to be sent in: Mike Blackwolf.
Size of Guild: 3 at current time guild has been dormant this is subject to change.
How Old is Your Guild? Two and a half years
Do you agree to follow the General Rules and Guidelines of The Pirate Conclave? (Mark yes or no with an "X")
Yes: X
No:

There is no size requirement and send in whatever pirate you chose basic or unlimited it really doesn't matter but you have the smallest guild wanting to gain entry

It doesn't matter how old your guild is, how big it is, how well it's known, or what pirate you send in. We are willing to except any and all pirates and guilds :)

Its a difficult guild to recruit for as there are special requirements for membership. Its a Native American Guild. So membership is based on Cultural roots. Guild had been dormant for over 2 years. Don't let the size of the guild discourage you. I bring experience and leadership qualities. In game I've had 3 level 50 master pirates, been a GM and 2nd in larger guilds.

I just want to anounse the planed counsal will not happen unless someone spacificly wants it all it rally did was cause confusion and neadless drama

That will not diture us from accepting you as we are in the process of doing any guild is welcome no mater how many members and we have not turned down anyone that I know of

Pirate has been created awaiting name approval

Name of Guild: Bestest People 2
Guildmaster: Swordshot
Pirate/Representative to be sent in: Swashbuckler
Size of Guild: X Small
How Old is Your Guild? if ye count the old guild to, it is around a year
Do you agree to follow the General Rules and Guidelines of The Pirate Conclave? (Mark yes or no with an "X")
Yes: X
No:

I think we should have some sort of group of elected members to be leaders maybe say 3 or 4 people to vote upon specific things such as disaplenary actions and possible banning of a guild. Or else if could turn into a huge arguement if the enitre conclave votes upon a disaplinary action towards another guild.

Elizabeth Swan- This is madness
Jack Sparrow - this is politics

I believe that my way is much more reasonable, and easier: If a guild doesn't follow the rules, they get a warning. If it repeats, they're out. Sweet and to the point.

Rules can be miss interpuraded and could be argued... whos to say that the other guild was going against the rule if they say that the rule did not apply to what they did?

Clearly a guild that is being charged in violating a rule won't have a say in if they did it or not - that's like having a murderer on trial decide what his fate will be.

And really, the rules are pretty much straight-foward. The only rule that deals with misbehavior is the first one, which deals with disrespect, or conflicts - both of which require just little amounts of common sense to judge whether or not they actually occured.

I really don't like the idea of having to make some guilds more poweful than others. It makes everything too... unequal?, perhaps. I'd be willing to put this up for decision amongst the rest of you, just.. well, I don't know. It doesn't sit right with me, making booting a few misbehavers a whole big complex system. That's why TBC failed - it was too complicated.

i've argued about this idea to del he doesn't like it and it seams unimportant for now but i like the idea that i partially gave to you. how about a vote to see if we should have it it would be a test of our democracy and maybe del's tolerance. i also vote for this board (council) pure democracy doesn't work for disciplinary actions elected people are needed.

i'm not asking about a huge syestem like TBC just like 3 or 4 people to help run the disaplenary actions so we don't have chaos.... I'm all about being simple

also what i meant

since del didn't i here by welcome O'Fury's court to the conclave and del add them to the list of guilds in the conclave

del read your pms

um Contiainer i requested that i was left at hold.... its not Del's fault....

Countainer stop pushing so much. If you don't recall, mate, this is not real life.

ok how about an in game meeting just to find out whose who at 11 o'clock easter time at the kingshed warehouse on tortos

Igor
 

Igor have to ask what server?

Um... Countainer... you are making too big of a deal out of this... you are PMing everyone way to fast, and we are still just forming the guild... Del is the GM by popular vote, therefore it is his responsibility to be sending out PMs to everyone.. and sometimes you get a bit aggressive...

Chill out a bit, its under control, please stop PMing us all, and just let Del handle it. Its not like everything will happen in two days. This whole thing will take several weeks at least.

on the subject of del the role of gm was ment to be symbolic tittle like queen of england no, real power was ment to be vested in an elected council not a gm. to be honest when i asked him to be gm i just wanted to keep the collective alive he was the best way to do it and it worked. del when you put forth your demands they it seamed like you would follow the council (you seamed to like democracy and had a life which makes you less active) and draw guilds in after all the only one who would join was davy no offense but that was not what i wanted for the collective i probably should have seid this sooner. on a related note the original constitution for the guild collective that was going to be posted after the election and the collective got under way will be posted soon.

So, what your saying is, I have no real powers, and I was simply an advertisement ploy? That surely makes me feel a lot better about taking up this role.

Well, Countainer, this still is a Democracy. I was chosen by the people to lead, and I'll be damned if I'm left to sit back and watch others do the work. If they didn't want me to run, they would have said that. Therefore, I WILL continue to lead the Conclave, on the grounds of popular majority.

eh that was the goal didn't work out if it makes you feel better you did more then i expected and there was a little power not much though

I am sorry, What? Delmaria Darkskull has been putting time and energy into forming this idea you created, and now you just call him a figurehead? I understand very well that he is, in fact, only the leader of what is supposed to be a congregation of guilds working as one, but that does not mean he is merely a FIGUREHEAD or an ADVERTISEMENT. My friend, I do believe you do not fully understand that not everyone can put 24 hours 7 days a week into this game, merely because it is merely that; a game. He has been working as hard as he could to get this formed. You have no right to disrespect him by making him sound as if he had nothing to do with it. He is a fantastic leader, and he has the ability to run this and make it wonderful, if you would only LET HIM. Thank you.

Since this here thing is a voting thing

I vote that Del is head of Conclave and Container has the equal rights of the rest of us...Contianer i joined because of what Del said not what your ideas were thats why i want to be on hold i want to see if this becomes another TBC which i disliked alot from what you said it was another TBC i joined because Del posted that it was different. My allegiance is with Del.

he did have something to do with this he made this a success just not the way i expected it

Yes. Crest, if you were in a debate club at your school (unless you are) and this was a debate topic, you would have just made your opponents cry... Couldn't have said it any better. And Ofury, I joined for the same reason. I wanted a leader who I knew would do amazingly, and I knew that Del could do that.

/nods agrees with davy and crest

as is mine i stand by the pact made by those seeking elections this was just me finally saying what i thought early in the collective now that this is the conclave i throw my support behind del

well heres the original but i sent del the updated version

Guild collective
Preamble
This is basically the gms or delegates of several guilds combined into one guild by send in a younger pirate or trusted delegate of the gm. this person will be in a guild that will be the in game list of guilds. Ranks would be based on the number of people in the guild and/or the abilities of the person or people representing that guild. Any guild can join this collective but if the guild dies or have no gm they may be removed. A guild may be removed by concessions of the council if inactive and the collective for disciplinary purposes.
The office of gm
The gm shale have no real power true power will be vested in a council
Name can be changed by gm
The gm may change
General rules
Respect other guilds
Be involved it the collective
If you want to join the collective, fill out application form below,
Don’t think of the gm as the leader he/she has no real power if you must see someone as in charge pick the council
Guild name
# of people in the guild
GM and or co gm(s)
Any other information that seams relevant:
The council
A council shale be established to be a disciplinary body a legislator equal in power to the collectives legislative power and be given additional power by the gm. There shall be no fewer than three members in the council but the number may increase if the gm and council agree. At the head of the guild collective council shale be the person who started the guild collective. It shale be the mission of the council to keep the peace of the council and keep it going.
This name guild collective is subject to change this document is still valid no matter the name

del has the new version which was changed from what i said to mostly things he said unless he deleted it in which case i'll try to recover it

things don't always go as planned countainer everyone has their own ideas some more alike than others.. but that is what shpaes something something that makes it great.. that is why i plan to question everything that happens here as i did with Del earlier to make sure that it is what everyone believes not what they think will get the popular vote.. Its the same as a guild you have your guildmaster and your officers but what really shapes a guild is the people inside the members you see carrying that guildname and how they react against others.. Things shape differently than we first imagine..


and contianer if that was what was on there when i looked at this i would have thrown it into the back of my mind more knowledge about this game i would never have joined because it sounds as though you want to control it the person who created it is you it was your idea giving you the power over everyone and O'fury ain't gonna be bossed round by nobody thasts why i became a guildmaster i was done taking orders on a game.

Davy is not seeing anything good happening anymore...... sigh, I am not going to have a part in building this guild if this is the way it is going to be. I will stay in the Conclave, however unless I can see less arguing and more working together to make this the best guild it can be (AND listening to each other's thoughts, which almost nobody seems to want to do) then I shall not be a part of building it. You want my help? Show me that I can say my opinions without people saying "no this is what we are doing."

Thats my final word.

well stated!:buds:

/nods agrees with Davy. nothing seems to be getting done here.

Very well said Davy. I do not wish to see this fall, I honestly don't, but unless there is less infighting, it shall never work. I implore of you, for it seems that there is too much bossing and not enough listening, to just talk, or, as the case may be, not talk and get your thoughts together in a manner before examining it with your colleagues. I do believe I am done here.

I believe we should meet in game i do not know all of you just yet tomorrow 10/8/10 around 6pm eastern perhaps? it would be easier to communicate in game rather then hitting refresh every 5 seconds....
10/8/10
Tortuga 6pm eastern

or as it were we are all on this thing now perhaps we can switch to game?

Too busy this weekend... if you friend a friend of mine on the forums (Crest, Del, SOS, or several others) then it would be easier, as I can get to you fast...

Del and Crest are already friends on live :D

If need be, I can be a middleman. However, as I really don't have any true involvement in the Conclave, I decline the invitation to be a part of the meeting. Also, I am not going to be on at the given time tomorrow, so if you need me then, I apologize.

Can do the Tuga meeting tomorrow rest of the weekend is pretty well tied up. Will be great meeting you folks in game.:pirate_flag:

i will hopefully be there would enjoy to meet and make friends with some others from here

Oh thanks Crest and Server Tortos

So, let me get this all straight.

I went through the confusing, painful process of being chosen as Guildmaster...

I've spent nearly countless hours organizing all of this....

I've been forced to respond to dozens of PMs....

And now as a slap on the back, I no longer have any powers or controls of what really goes on in the Conclave?

I'll try to attend the meeting, but don't count on it - I'm very busy this week.

Sorry to hear that Del, that tends to happen when things are let go too simple if things were gotten straight from the start then things like this would never take place, in the other hand, I know you have been doing alot of effort and that is great, but also keep in mind that if you don't get things straight from the beginning then things are doom to take any direction even these which are not desired

COUGH what about my guild -_-

Just need to pop in here real quick and make my point.

Countainer, thanks for making our point for us. WE the PIRATES elected, KEY WORD ELECTED, Del to be our leader. Doesn't that make him an elected official? If you keep opposing Del and everyone else, people will begin to question you and your ideas. I know, this was your idea. If you say "this was my idea i should run it" then you make it yourself. See how successful it is then.


Now, for classic me, I must make my point through song... err, I mean speech.

Delmaria Darkskull, otherwise known as Captain Del, is foremost a member of the guild, then the guildmaster. He doesn't abuse his powers, he uses them when people break the rules. He can be fun and serious, funny or not, but he's still the Del we all know and love. I wouldn't want him any other way. When I was a Member of PNC, it seemed we were all equals in the guild, no matter who we were, or what rank we were. Whenever Del comes online, he's friendly, even if we forget to say hello.


Just had to make my point.
~CM:rumgt7:


P.S. Swordshot- Del will get to you :)

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Hahahaha. I dont know why but i have a feeling that you are going to FAIL with a guild. Thats why i dont talk that much but u do argue. You just do both in one post. Stop it or else del will scare you like the little girl he scared in his class. If you dont get power, who cares? NOBODY has better powers then anyone. Thats what del is trying to say. The conclave would work ALOT better if there was no HUGE power nor arguments. If Del says NO powers in anyone, thats how it is. If you have temper tantrum online, you need some help. If your acting to make drama and get more popular your failing dont think all of us are like 9 years old. So think what you say before you say it.

del that is where you are wrong you do have power if you remember the newer version of the constitution which i sent to you gave you far more power over the conclave it was still shared power in that version though.