Guild Attacked!
 

my guild Captain's Alliance was attacked! We had at least 400 strong and someone deleted half of that! Example: im not gm im an officer i recruited like 6 level fifties but they couldn't be an officer till GM went on i made friends with these 6 people who like 10 mins later were out of the guild i figured this out because they all whispered why did u kick me out i didnt know what they were talking about so i looked at the guild count only 200 members! who did this! anyone else have this problem

WHOA so sry mate hope u find them all soon got any ideas who did it?

I'm sorry to hear about your guild mate. I hope all of your lost guildies can find their way back. I'll look around for lost members of Captain's Alliance.

as so will i when i get my computer back

Well, you say this happened ten minutes after you guilded them. That means that one of the officers that was online while you were online was the attacker. Try to remember back to who was online at the time, if there were any other officers on besides those in the screenshots (which I highly suggest taking down, less you want to get a warning for implying they did it.) After you figure out who was on, go through the guild list to see if any of those Officers are still in the guild. If they are, then have them demoted until everything is sorted out. If one of them is missing, then it's highly probably that that is your crasher.

Best of luck in healing your wounds, mate.

Hopefully the test updates come to live soon, officers will be able to only boot 5 people per day and it will say who boots who, who leaves, who joins..so unless people wanna go crazy, there wont be any more guild crashing..

Its a travesty this happens at all. Its a small comfort but you only lost half. Place some members on popular places with a thought bubble...if I hear anyone from your guild asking around where would you like to meet them?

Im very, very sorry Pirate Guy. I just cant stand people who destroy other guilds. It makes me sick. I just dont know why somebody would want to be ruining someone else's game because they think its fun.

Have you made any guild enemies lately? Because sometimes they will send in members, get them promoted, and then destroy your guild.

Best of luck repairing your guild mate!

I'm sick of people who are taking guilds down. Disney was right to make a limit of kick outs and make a popup of who kicks who out. This should bring an end to guild destruction.

Best of luck finding the missing guildies. It saddens me how people entertain themselves by doing this.

i agree its sad and its good that disney is helping make a end to it!

Thats terrible!!!! I am coming online asap!

im trying to remember who did it and thxs for ur help if u find anyone haveing a lead to did this please tell me

Sorry to hear mate.

Best of luck on getting this sorted out.


REMEMBER: Be careful who you officer.

I'm pretty sure that Disney can tell you who did it, as well as who was removed, etc etc.. Just go into Live Chat and explain your situation. I'm not all that sure about how you'll go about reguilding everyone, but it should certainly help you find the culprit.

Good luck, mate!!! I hope everything works out for ye!

The updates will go a long way to fix this. First, it will tell WHO remove the members. Second, it will limit an officer to only 5 removals a day. This should prevent the mass purgings.

Also, the new Veteran rank will mean you can have recruiters who won't be able to delete.

As for the guilty party in this instance, check to see if any officers recently left. They may be your culprit. Also, has any officers been having issues recently with the GM or another officer.

Lastly, you may have to consider that this was a planned act of sabotage from a spy as well as the chance it was just a disgruntled member.

PLEASE disney, get the updates up - so we can stop this!

So basically a mini-officer? That'll be awesome for guilds who have a system where they have the whole "full officer, petty officer, member" thing :)

And SO sorry your guild was attacked, Pirate!

I had to deal with this too when my guild was about a month old. It may seem it, but it's not the en d of the world. For me, this was a learning experience, and it helped me become a better GM. From now on, whenever you and your GM promote someone, make sure you have complete trust in them. Luckily, the update will prevent things like this from happening again, so we don't need to worry as much. Anyway, the key for moving forward is DON'T GIVE UP. Make sure you, your GM especially, your officers and members don't give up either and make sure they are ready to rebuild. Remember, you're not starting from zero, you are starting from 200. When we were deleted, we were left with 20, and now we are almost maxed. So if we did it from 20, you can do it from 200.
What we did was go to Abassa and hold up thought bubbles saying we have been deleted by an officer and are looking for those removed who are interested in coming back. I suggest you try Abassa, or any other server your guild is usually on, like the server you usually do invasions on. Going to Abassa worked for us and we found a lot of people that got deleted. Hope it works for you!

Best of luck!

William

Disney won't help
 

My guild was attacked a month ago by a trusted officer. He deleted every member, some 150 people. All I had left were the officers. I knew who had done this and reported him to Disney. My other officers reported him also. I requested Disney keep me informed as to the punishment of this person. Disney responded with the Privacy issues and say that they could tell me anything. To this date, that person is still playing the game and in another guild. Lucky I know the gm of that guild and I have warned him of this person's behavior.


Skully
Gm of Skully's XBones

It is very sad that people must resort to crashing/deleting guilds. Crashers will do this more until the update comes. And a lot of people have noticed a slight rise of crashing since they announced the new update. -sigh-. It is about time this problem gets fixed. The sooner the update for guilds, the better.

Aye, very true. I have decided to not make new officers until the update. Crashers will act now if they are going to act. I don't want this to have to happen to me and my guild again, and I'm not taking any chances. Hopefully this update will bring more peace for guilds, and will limit the "spying" and drama caused from this type of problem. Please Disney, get this update live ASAP.

I have been thinking about this issue for quite some time, and I have come to the conclusion that this issue might never be solved. These "attackers" will find ways of destroying guilds, even with the new rank system. Or at least they fill continue to try.

I hope that I am wrong.

So he crashes a guild and walks free:knife:

I can easily think of a few ways to destroy a guild without ejecting any members. I shall not share them though, or ever perform them. Making other players upset is just wrong, and I dont even see the point.

As Skirata said, it may never be solved.

Aye, there are many ways to destroy a guild that does not include deleting members. Some of these include ways that attackers do not need to be in their targeted guild. This happened to me a few times. Also, these people can cause mayhem and drama in a guild that can start to make members leave. These people will always be about. However, as we encounter more experiences with them, we will learn how to deal with them better, too.

solution
 

i am in a guild that got attacked but because of the things the gm did when the guild was originally made everything was fine

this is what you do
1 make a guild website with a list of all your guild members when they joined what rank they are and when they got promoted
2 keep updating the list
3 if you are attacked make everyone in your guild an member and announce on the website why this has happened and when it started and on the list put red dots next to the name of anyone missing
4 try and find the culprit and delete him if you cant delete everyone who was promoted to an officer just before the trouble started
then you have got rid of the culprit repromote theorigional officers and search for the people on your list labeled missing
if you do this your guild can be saved from all future attacks

I'm wish people would stop doing that and read my thread i wrote shourtly after reading this "to save a guild" it may help bring people back but it was written to save guilds that haven't been attacked yet it could work though.

roger sword shot level 45 MASTERS IN SWORDS
 

Sorry about your guild mate. i don't know who might have done this, but its not my guild masters in swords. Ask my Gm davy cabinmorgan if ye want help. :piratewheelgo2:

GASP! - Jots down "NEVER MAKE ANYONE OFFICER AGAIN!" -

I'm sorry this happened to ya. It has happened in the Galleon Crashers, resulting in my resignation as GM from them. If ya can, remember who was on at the time. Maybe ye can get to the bottom of it.

Best Wishes,

Dan

Even when the new updates are in place I can still see this being a problem. There will always be troublemakers and problem people in game. Its not just a matter of who you promote but care must be taken as to who you choose to guild as well. with the addition of the new veteran rank promoting the wrong person to veteran status can quickly load a guild down with troublemakers and griefers. Best to build a guild slowly and take care in choosing the people you recruit. Only promote loyal responsible people into the veteran and officer ranks.

So sorry to hear this Pirate Guy, I hope you can get to the bottom of it. I didn't realize that these kind of things went on in the game, very saddening. Best of luck to you, hopefully you will be able to recover some of your loss. Please keep us posted on your progress.

Guys I Have an Idea!!! ONLY and i repeat ONLY get members when the GM is on & make everyone an officer so No one can deleat each other!!!! GO BRAIN!!!

IMO, making every member an officer is not the best idea in the world. If everybody is an Officer, when the GM is not on, these people can cause as much trouble as they want, without getting reprimanded. Not mention, Officership should be more of a reward than a scheme to get a guild more members.

PIC has always used a very, very, very simple process when choosing Officers. We watch the member develop in our guild over time - see if they are friendly, well-liked amongst the guild, trustworthy, and all of that. Coupled with experience, it takes the average member 6 months to over a year to get promoted. This usually ensures the person you promote knows what they're doing.

i have NO idea what reprimanded means & also what kind of trouble if they start a war what every its not like they can delete anyone???

Im so sorry to hear that, mate.

Davy, reprimanded means getting in trouble or getting some punishment somehow.

Wars and deleting members has nothing to do with it.

Everybody being an Officer gives no person no real power over the other without the GM online, so they can basically do what they want, say what they want, and create enough chaos and drama that would drive an sensible and worthful members out of a guild. My making every member an Officer, one is basically creating an enviroment within their guild that is untamed and self-destructive.

It's over now...officers can only boot 5 members a day

guild attacks
 

what my guild has done is make EVERYONE an officer. this help our guild grow like crazy, and we are invincible against "spies." this has been very effective and help our guild live long.

As Del said above, "making every member an Officer, one is basically creating an enviroment within their guild that is untamed and self-destructive." There comes a time when the GM must know who is in charge, themselves or the Officers. I've seen this more than frequently where a member either joins and demands the promotion or does so upon joining - so the guild leader must step up to say "no." Yes, you may be granted with a new member, but you're also allowing them to take the easy way out instead of becoming grounded with the guild.

One thing that comes in handy is also for guilds to keep track of their Roster, their names, levels, and ranks. That way in case such an experience should happen, you will be able to not only narrow down the culprit, but also attempt to reestablish lost and ejected members. Another tip I might add, friend your guild members or make sure your guild members have each other on friends - not that you should demand it - but it serves as a security blanket and allows a guild to restore itself rather quickly.

lol thats why everyone in MY guild is one

lol i LOVE THAT STUFF!!!

Not trying to send out a personal attack, nor be rude, but that is very, very selfish of you. Your basically saying that you like indirectly creating a bad label for both yourself, your guild, and it's members, that will basically haunt them throughout their time in POTCO. Not to mention, it will also have an affect on plenty of other innocent pirates, who have their game disrupted by your guild because nobody can reprimand them. And this seems like it is for your personal amusement.

I'm sorry, but if you could be that careless with your guild, a good Guildmaster one does not make.

I agree with Del.....
My gosh Davy....your guild must not have any order what so ever!
It has got to be chaos in there!

Yesterday, I was playing my lower level pirate in my guild, one of my officers guilded a player. As soon as he was welcomed by all the members, he asked who was GM and a couple officers told him, and the next thing ya know he left the guild!!! That tells me one thing.....he was looking to become officer right away! Not a member I would like to have on my guild!!!

Good luck with your guild Davy!

Raven Trueheart, GM Wrath of Ravens

Del,

Davy is obviously a child so I don't think your words will be heeded. But, nice to know he has no qualms announcing his guild likes to start conflict. Duly noted.

EC

To each their own when it comes to commanding a guild, there are benefits - or at least used to be (when guilds were being crashed left and right) - for guild masters to promote all of their members to officers as to avoid guild crashes, though it is poor leading. It isn't necessarily fair to those who join the guild, unless they don't mind, that the guild should be provided with a stable and solid leadership or at least some type of organization. If you promote your members to avoid paranoia, then dissolve that by just promoting a select few with whom you trust; it's the same concept really except there is a more stable environment and will prove more beneficial in the long run. Keep in mind that not everyone is out to get you or looking to crash you. If your guild is represented well, you will receive the same results as to the amount of effort you put into it... i.e. your guild mates are respectful, kind, helpful, etc.

Well, our guild isn't untamed or what ever. we have a co gm (me) and third gm system, and everyone in our guild respects me and the third gm. that's how we work, and its been very effective. but where only one guild, and this probably would not work with other guilds.

Hey, if the system is working for you, use it. Some guilds are not as fortunate as maintaining a few hundred officers and keeping order. By order, I'm not really talking about everyone being polite or whatever, order by implying that it becomes difficult when you are really trying to define what goes in their place. Meaning to say, who's really in charge when the GM is offline or on leave, Co-GMs may work, but they're set at the Officer ranking along with every other member, get my drift? As long as the chain of command is properly functioning, basically any system of leadership could work.

Some may disagree with what I do with veterans. Basically, if you have been in the guild for two weeks, and I have seen you being a good member, being polite, helping out, being social, etc. I make you a veteran. It helps boost morale in my guild, as people like being higher ranks for some reason. Also, it allows more people to come into the guild.

Again, some may disagree with this philosophy, but it works well for my guild, so I do it.

and whats even better is that we have 490-500 people, but not a lot of people are on at once, but a nice amount, easy to control, but big enough to do fleets and invasions. we are also very friendly, and fighting is not tolerated.

guys there is a new thing called LYING

Davy_, I have no clue what your getting at, but whatever it is, lying is never a good thing.

m, i'm not lying.

Was I in that long? :P