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Drew88 04-03-2010 10:08 PM

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At what point does one get seriously bored with a game? I do not have 4 maxed out pirates like some nor is my 1 pirate maxed, but, honestly, I don't want to max out. I'm bored out of my skull just trying to max out weapons, but what am I going to do when I do max out? Start a new pirate and repeat the process?

Are new weapons really worth me spending money on only to max out the raised level caps or find some gear? I don't need new gear or new skills or raised level caps, I can kill level 50 enemies easily already. Even a few new enemies wouldn't be worth paying money.

I guess in my rant I really want to know, is this game worth it at the end of the day?
I'm just sad as there isn't anything meaningful left to do. Even if I had my dream of just being able to customize my ship, how long would I be happy? 1 week?

ex8404 04-04-2010 12:52 PM

Yeah. Welcome to the dilemma that so many of us have experienced.

The truth is, once you have finished the game, there is nothing to do. Disney will throw you little crumbs along the way but, at the end of the day, you realize that stuff like new caves and new islands are just things to look at and not things to do.

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Even if I had my dream of just being able to customize my ship, how long would I be happy? 1 week?
I know. First off, why in the world wasn't ship customization part of the package from the beginning? And secondly, it would be great and distracting for, like you said, about a week.

What most folks do is one of two things. You either embrace the social side of the game or you just fade away into the sunset. I have to be honest. It it weren't for Test and the fact that I just keep forgetting to cancel the $10/month I have scheduled, I would stop playing all together.

Sven Osymthe 04-04-2010 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Drew88 (Post 204040)
At what point does one get seriously bored with a game? I do not have 4 maxed out pirates like some nor is my 1 pirate maxed, but, honestly, I don't want to max out. I'm bored out of my skull just trying to max out weapons, but what am I going to do when I do max out? Start a new pirate and repeat the process?

Are new weapons really worth me spending money on only to max out the raised level caps or find some gear? I don't need new gear or new skills or raised level caps, I can kill level 50 enemies easily already. Even a few new enemies wouldn't be worth paying money.

I guess in my rant I really want to know, is this game worth it at the end of the day?
I'm just sad as there isn't anything meaningful left to do. Even if I had my dream of just being able to customize my ship, how long would I be happy? 1 week?

Everyone has their different views on the game, different ways to have fun, different ways to be considered bored.. so there's really no way to tell. You sound like most do, so finding something new to do, either in game, or out is the next step.

As ex8404 said, many stay for the social aspect of the game. Trying that out could be a solution. If that doesn't work, taking a short break from the game could help spark your interest once again. Or, find out what made you interested in the first place, and pursue that.

In response to the new weapons, no, personally I don't feel they are worth it. Granted they are something new, but until there is a use for them.. I don't see a reason. Add in that our body types are possibly being changed.. it's definitely not worth it at this time - the future, yes, now.. that's the players call.

You probably would be tired of it in one week. Thinking about it, a lot of us would be. Sure, plenty of us enjoy this idea, but it feels like it's too late. If it were there since day one, it would be more connected to the game.. but if it is a new addition, it almost feels forced upon the players - such as the inventory. Perfect example.. many of us grew used to certain parts of the game.. old islands, no inventory.. then they add updates which completely alter the previous.. that forces change that sometimes we don't want.

ex8404 04-04-2010 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Drew
Are new weapons really worth me spending money on only to max out the raised level caps or find some gear? I don't need new gear or new skills or raised level caps, I can kill level 50 enemies easily already. Even a few new enemies wouldn't be worth paying money.

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Originally Posted by Sven Osymthe (Post 204143)
In response to the new weapons, no, personally I don't feel they are worth it. Granted they are something new, but until there is a use for them.. I don't see a reason. Add in that our body types are possibly being changed.. it's definitely not worth it at this time - the future, yes, now.. that's the players call.

I have done a radical 180 degree turn on the whole Loot Drop, Inventory, New Weapons thing. Since the last update, the third total reset, I am over it. I have played for a few hours and got drops of Ammo and Potions only.

A guild mate said that you have to play in large groups to get good drops in order to encourage crewing up. And that ended it for me. (That and the unmotivated, ridiculous, body style change.) I have never understood trading rep for loot...Anyway, Drew, I hope you find your answers.

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Originally Posted by Sven
If it were there since day one, it would be more connected to the game.. but if it is a new addition, it almost feels forced upon the players - such as the inventory. Perfect example.. many of us grew used to certain parts of the game.. old islands, no inventory.. then they add updates which completely alter the previous.. that forces change that sometimes we don't want.

Yeah. I wish I had said that.

Edit: I think I am spending more time here than I am in the game...

Sven Osymthe 04-04-2010 03:42 PM

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I have done a radical 180 degree turn on the whole Loot Drop, Inventory, New Weapons thing. Since the last update, the third total reset, I am over it. I have played for a few hours and got drops of Ammo and Potions only.
I agree a little bit. The resets didn't kill it for me, I just don't like inventories that much. Its just one of those things where, it wasn't there to begin with, and it takes some getting used to. Throw in the fact that every other game has it.. POTCO loses some of its uniqueness. But the rate of drops decreasing is also very bothersome at times.

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A guild mate said that you have to play in large groups to get good drops in order to encourage crewing up. And that ended it for me. (That and the unmotivated, ridiculous, body style change.) I have never understood trading rep for loot...Anyway, Drew, I hope you find your answers.
Crewing up doesn't increase the amount of good drops you get, it just increases the speed of which you gather them. On test I was playing solo, and got my only new weapons since the reset (not rare, but it was something). Crewed up, got tonics and gold with ammo here and there. Left crew, got a new (old) pair of pants. *What I meant about speed is you can kill stuff quicker*

Just throwing this out there... this update also seems to increase the want to "rep steal". I am not to bothered by it, since test isn't about leveling.. but if it continues on live it will be annoying. It seems that now, all people care about is finding loot, even if it means attacking someone's target.

I hope this helps you out, Drew. It's your call what you do in the end, just remember, your experience and opinions may differ.

Rannulf 04-04-2010 04:01 PM

I have a simple solution. If it is no longer fun move on. Don't complain, just move on. Conmplaining just to complain is a rather lame. Remember this is just a game, a distraction from lifes dayly grind. If no joy is found playing stop. Find a new pursuit.

There are a lot of MMO's out there try a new one, join there forum. Then complain there on how bored you are! LOL!!

Welcome to life, it gets boring when nothing changes. Make ye own change mate!

Good luck, Godspeed, and Fair Winds on ye journey!

ex8404 04-04-2010 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rannulf (Post 204167)
Don't complain, just move on. Conmplaining just to complain is a rather lame.

Check it again. Not a single person has complained "just to complain." There are people who like POTCO and hate seeing what it has become. And this is an open forum. Not a Fanboy site. So you can expect differing opinions and intelligent discussion on both sides. No lectures needed about how to live life.

If you want only the opinions you want to hear, then you need to start your own forum.

Sven Osymthe 04-04-2010 04:32 PM

I get bored, and I also enjoy playing the game. Didn't post complaints (other than the rep deal), but rather my opinions to help Drew.

If you don't like people "complaining", simply don't read the post :)

Rannulf 04-04-2010 04:43 PM

Easy guys, easy now! Just a small exercise in me 1st amendment rights. I love reading all ye posts its entertaining in and of its self! Just a little life advice. Re-read what I wrote (sorry for the poor spelling). Not an attack, just an observation, and advice.

I find people who complain and do nothing about it, but complain to be a real treat. They keep life interesting.

I did not direct this at either of ye! Just a pre-emptive strike so to speak for what is to come in the thread for sure!

Oh and a :36: to ye!

Relax, breath, and rant on my fellow forumites!

Angel Seafish 04-04-2010 04:46 PM

I admit. It does get boring after a while! I personally love the inventory! But it is hard to get used to because you might not know which sword is better than the last from a loot drop. It was fun to discover new things! But I don't know how long it would take to see all you need to see. It is nice to get free tonic and ammo!

The Skirata Clan 04-04-2010 06:35 PM

How about a year ago.

MacIronhawk 04-04-2010 06:46 PM

For me, once I max out I can keep on playing the game for a month before I get bored.

I'm entertained, like others said, because of the test server. However, having lost progress from level 13 to 19 really just put in a whole week down the toilet, especially since I was hoping to get the grenade quest by the end of the week. Didn't happen.

One of the only reasons I'm still left in the game is because i'm looking forward to a second story quest out on test.

But with my luck I won't be finished with the first story quest on test to see the next.

ex8404 04-04-2010 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MacIronhawk (Post 204203)
But with my luck I won't be finished with the first story quest on test to see the next.

Mac, something tells me you will have plenty of time to finish the Pearl before the second story is released...

Nelly Darkpaine 04-05-2010 01:13 AM

I finally left after WAITING for over a year for something new. IMO players shouldnt have to pay to do NOTHING. Mastered my pirate twice, and only after several others realized how horribly repetitive and basic the main story quest is/was.

Now? I play Guild Wars - NO MONTHLY FEE - TONS TO DO - and lots to discover. LESS LAG, more fun, more events, more entertainment for WAY less money. =/

nitnek 04-05-2010 01:39 AM

I totaly agree with you Nelly. I'm doing the same as you !

Basil Dreadflint 04-05-2010 02:23 AM

When the first thread was posted about the 'new' loot, drops, and inventory sytem, I posted a negative comment. Because of that, I was berated, called names, and generally ignored. Quite a few members of this forum have shunned me since then.

Well, I knew then, as I know now, that this IS NOT what we, the players, want.

In answer to a couple of the posts below:

I had 4 fully Mastered level 40 pirates. I played each and every one of them totally differently. Each has his own unique skill set. Now, I only have 1 level 50 fully Mastered. The highest of the other 3 is only level 43. The other 2 are still level 40. I say all this to emphasize that I have not rushed into the new levels and am complaining about not having anything left to do. I have plenty to do. Grind weapons!

The problem is that in order to bring all the others to level 50, they are going to have to lose their individuality. They are all going to become the exact same pirate. There is nothing from level 40 to level 50 that allows different tracks to get there.

Just like everyone else, I worked hard to win the Pearl. Now I want to know WHY? Where does the first story chapter lead? Where is the second story chapter?

The updates that Disney keeps working on, the supposedly "NEW" stuff that they keep giving us: new more powerful weapons, redone islands, new caves, updated more powerful enemies and ships: They keep fixing things that ARE NOT broken!
Now we get a new inventory system. And more, 'new' more powerful weapons. (Been there, done that.)

None of this is SUBSTANCE!

The few items that were truely interesting, mainly the Rott quests and the invasions and EITC fleets, are going (or have already gone) away! Again, I feel that Disney is making a grave mistake there, too. These were good things, but they won't be available to anyone who wasn't/isn't already in the game. It's almost as if Disney is creating things like this for only the existing players, and not for the future. I am beginning to feel that they are playing the game to an end.

What use are quests that can never be played by new players? Are they planning to not bring in any new people? Have they given up on growing the pirate population? Are they just going to let the existing players keep dropping out until they finally close the servers down? (Like they did on VMK?)
If the Rott quests, and the invasions, fleets, etc. were level coded, if they opened to new players at predetermined levels like other quests, then maybe it would be more fair and equitable. But we don't see that happening.

I want a true story chapter. That is, in my opinion, the ONLY thing that the developers should be concentrating on.

I haven't given up on this game. I still pay to keep my blue name. I still log on to see my guys gain progress. I still try to make up activities to help keep others in my guild active and involved. I enjoy being with my friends. I'm not on as much as I used to be, or as much as I would like to be, but that's because of RL issues, and not because of the game.

I feel that I have made some great friends here on the forum, and in the game itself. For that reason alone, I wouldn't just walk away and give up. I do feel the frustration that some have posted here, but to those people I say, it's a decision you have to make. Me posting this should tell you what my decision is.

I do have one final thing to add. I want to thank EX8404 for this quote:
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Check it again. Not a single person has complained "just to complain." There are people who like POTCO and hate seeing what it has become. And this is an open forum. Not a Fanboy site. So you can expect differing opinions and intelligent discussion on both sides. No lectures needed about how to live life.

If you want only the opinions you want to hear, then you need to start your own forum.

Captain Del 04-05-2010 02:36 AM

I'm going to say this nice, and flat out. For pirates such as myself, who have pirates close to if not mastered, new content will keep you excited for a week or so. Then, your bored again. The only way to actually experience the entire inventory system, is to create a new pirate. This way, you get to experience every little thing you hit along the way (but honestly, who wants to create a new pirate for every single update?) With a higher leveled pirate, the content Disney adds now is most likely going to be, in laymans terms, easy and boring.

Personally, I'm with the game, because its fun. Now, by fun, do I mean the content? Not exactly. I'm here because its fun to experience the game with my mates. I wouldn't care if the game was one island, one server, and one quest - I'm sure I, along with others, would still be entertained by it.

Realize: MMO's are different from regular console games. With console gams, you beat everything, and then wait for the next game to come out. With MMO's.. basically the same thing, only your waiting for content. But what makes people, like me, stay with MMO's between that content? It's the social aspect. Lets face it, 95% of the game revolves around interaction with other players. Now, I'm not saying you can't hit 50, do all the quests, and master all your weapons without help. But then its not going to be nearly as enjoying as if you find a guild, meet some friends, and do things away from the games actual content.

I don't care that WoW has so much content it takes up, what, 10 GB for every expansion? That you can play for years and still not get bored. I don't care that Guild Wars has this, or POTBS has that. I care about MY game, and how entertaining it is by itself, not how entertaining it is compared to other games. And as far as I see it, POTCO gets an A+ :)

NOTE: Opinion ;)

MacIronhawk 04-05-2010 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Basil Dreadflint (Post 204260)
The problem is that in order to bring all the others to level 50, they are going to have to lose their individuality. They are all going to become the exact same pirate. There is nothing from level 40 to level 50 that allows different tracks to get there.

Just like everyone else, I worked hard to win the Pearl. Now I want to know WHY? Where does the first story chapter lead? Where is the second story chapter?

The updates that Disney keeps working on, the supposedly "NEW" stuff that they keep giving us: new more powerful weapons, redone islands, new caves, updated more powerful enemies and ships: They keep fixing things that ARE NOT broken!
Now we get a new inventory system. And more, 'new' more powerful weapons. (Been there, done that.)

First, you're exactly right. There is no uniqueness in levleing, and they need to listen to play ideas.

HOWEVER, they don't want us to join the enemy, and they haven't stated whether we'll be able to chose a path of a gypsy, shooter, cannoneer, swordsman, etc...

What they SHOULD do, in my opinion, is let us join the enemy for quite some time to "spy" on them, but we can go back later and join another enemy. Like Davy Jones' crew. Who wouldn't want to join them, just to see what it's like to be the enemy?

I don't know if that's what you were getting at or not, Basil.

And I just want to say, I'm sick and tired of seeing all these things being redone. If they wanted them like this, they should have been like that in the first place! No excuses. If they didn't like the caves, they should have been the way they are now since the beginning.

And the second story quest. They said on their site that the reason the Kraken was taking so long was because he was literally the plot of the second story quest. That was back in April 2009. Said he would be there by the end of the year. They didn't promise it, but they said he would be. Didn't end up happening.

Let's face it, they're lagging way behind. This inventory system and all the loot drops... should have been here from the beginning. What's new? It's just changes. What would be new is the Kraken and that's what us players want.

What I'm afraid is going to happen, is what the Kraken comes out there will be this huge rush of players to finish the second story quest. Woo! We finished the quest, boss battle time! First time doing the boss battle, wo.... that was cool. Second time... that's it?

It's going to be a big disappointment when this thing finally reaches the game. They say it's worth the wait, but was waiting for the black pearl boss battle to be fixed worth the wait? No... it wasn't as good as they said it would be. It was kind of fun, but not like any boss battle in a console game.

Waiting for this second story quest has become a load on some of us. Especially in this economy, paying $10 a month or $80 a year is just not worth it when you're getting anything cool in return.


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