Major test glitch. Caution.
 

Maybe...

If you log on to test you stand a major chance of losing all of your weapons, clothes and gold. I did.



No idea if it is permanent or temporary but if it turns out to be permanent, you guys might want to stay away until it's fixed.

they still didnt fix the mac issue :'( :( :/ -_- -.-

You're lucky then. My pirate is now wearing only his boxer shorts. He also has a Rusty Cutlass (those are free at any blacksmith) that causes no damage. Fun stuff.

Gotta remind myself I am a Tester and this stuff sort of just happens.

Yep I can officially say this is happening to everyone, I don't even think you have to log in to trigger it. Also, even if you get a rusty cutlass, which is the only remotely sensible thing to get after this next point, you lose everything again after you log off and on. Not to mention new things you get (if you don't mind that you will lose them again) don't go in your bag, with the exception of SOME items as i got clothes and a dagger. BTW if you don't want to lose your clothes, don't put any new clothes on because even though the clothes aren't in your inventory, they are still on your pirate. Sorry for the somewhat long post.

Keep in mind though this might be voluntary by Disney, maybe as their solution to some people exploiting or something, because when I tried to log in, it updated THEN logged me into the game when I found out my weapons were gone. This (to me) sounds like that update either had a HUGE bug in it that they didn't see (which doesn't make much sense) or it could be a voluntary wipe.
I personally think that Disney will give us our stuff back once they sort it out, even if their motive was to wipe the system, because they will be realizing that taking away all progress doesn't equal much money lol.

Good luck getting your things back everyone.

i'll talk to live chat about this

edit
big d doesn't have a live chat for test so much for immediate response

doesn't have to be for test...live chat is for the whole game(open and test) as a whole.

i have lost all my weapons... i can not buy any since i am basic. CRIES OUT LOUD

I've logged in and out several times today. First time we had basic weapons for my son's pirate, so I tried to rearrange them. However, doing this cause none of them to be able to be used. So I logged in and out a few times more doing the same thing till it clicked that there was a bug with moving inventory around. After logging in again and only removing two weapons, leaving two slots open incase we were to get a loot sac with a weapon, we were able to use the two left in the belt. Well, sort of. I found out that there was also a bug with attuning anything. So much for leveling doll this morning. We were also booted from game a few times. After the last time we lost everything. I tried to relog 3 more times and same thing. Seems that they made things worse with the update they did last night. I'm guessing that this wont get resolved till Monday some time, but the loss of inventory is just a bug as a result of last nights update.

For those who have no problem with inventory on their pirate YET:

My friend cautioned me that if you pick up a new weapon from the loot you plunder, your inventory will start going hay-wire if you log back in the next time. True enough, when i logged in this morning, my pirate had all her weapons fine, but as soon as i plundered a new weapon and logged back in, all my inventory are lost.

The only thing im equipped with now is a rusty cutlass which i got for free from blacksmith.

Now all I can do is to play other pirates that are not affected yet, and be cautious not to pick up any loot with weapons. :(

Same happened to me.... Had so many rare weapons like the witch hunter sabre, the EITC mercenary's sword. Had an ornate broadsword from the blacksmith and plus a heavy scattergun blunderbuss. During the glitch i found a holy pistol that I couldn't keep :( Big D better get this fixed quick cause it will effect the population really fast. I even tried switching servers from Amberassa and Lankgolia and no luck. Let's hope maintenance is going on tonight.

This happened to me yesterday. I crashed, logged back on, and had nothing but the clothes on my back. It did however fix immediately after logging back on.

live chat couldn't help me since this was a test server issue so they told me to send in a bug report

Random question btw, does anyone know since when was Live Chat back up and running? lol. I didnt know it was back zuz i thought it has been down for forever since linked account feature was taken away back in May 2009 when they could not handle the complains.

according to the log files not disney my security systems were conflicting that may mean somthing

I'm glad someone posted this, I came here looking to see if anyone had warned the people here. I did not lose my weapons b/c of collecting loot. This may be a cause for some, however... I had all my stuff and was sailing. I boarded a flag ship and as soon as I landed on the ship I saw I had no way to attack the enemies since I had no weapons! Oh, all I could do was run around, till they killed me. It was very sad. The other person in my crew did not lose her weapons... she lost hers upon entering Kingshead. It looks like everyone has lost them, and those that haven't, will if they log on.

I suggest to anyone who reads this and is curious about the mayhem on test right now, make a new pirate and go in with that. There is no GUARANTEE that all will be restored to our pirates that have lost everything... after all, it is test. Besides, everyone gets booted from the server every half hour anyway! Oh, and thank you Disney for rolling out an invasion while everyone just had rusty cutlasses... yea we won anyways.

I also found that during this glitch, you can launch from a privateer island, and then go around sinking all the little sloops that are in the ocean being sailed by fellow pirates. And this is a good way to repair your ship since you cant talk to the dockworkers!!!

Happy pirating!!!

Wow, this sounds worse than the time that all testers on Toontown were sent back to the Oldman tasks...

Ok i just talked to live chat and they said they're aware of the weapons issue but have no time frame sadly. :'( :( :/

does the test server have a live chat

Just tried to log in to test. It said the server was closed. Didnt say that it was for maintenance at all! Im wondering now how long test will be down.

Im lucky, still hanging around in the server with a inventory functioning pirate :D

Probably fixing the bugs we all reported about time to lol. :)

Wow. Still down. No maintenance mentioned. Just "Server is Closed." Sounds very final.

On a side note...I don't play any other MMOs. Is it normal for player/testers and the developers to have one-way feedback? I always thought that it would help to hear from the programmers once in a while. You know...to hear their thoughts on what needs to be tested and what needs to be really tested...

Yeah i agree.

Well, its been at least a couple hours since I've tried last. It is still closed. Maybe sometime tomorrow it will be working again. I just hope they fix this before Monday.

I'm very pleased to see it closed, I had expected it to stay messed up till Monday. I was enjoying hanging out out on Port Royals dock watching people log on and totally freaking out cause everything they had was gone... Nothing like watching everyone yell 'OMG, WHERE DID MY WEAPONS GO!!!"

Site is still down its been almost 2 hours now. I wonder if they will restore us, or let us start with nothing... Can they restore us is more the question.

This is probably why my inventory is completely fine, other than the fact that I can't put any of my cloths back on.

EDIT: It's almost 11 PM where I'm at and I still can't get on test. I guess we're going to have to wait until tomorrow for possible fixes.

6:30 AM and the site is still closed. I am starting to wonder...

Almost 9:00am eastern and still closed...

Personally I don't expect it to open again until sometime Monday. My theory is that they closed it to stop all of the bug reports coming in about the loss of inventory. The question is whether the programmers work on the weekend. If they don't, and I doubt they do, especially overnight, then there is no one to fix the issue at the current moment. This is all guess work of course and I don't really know anything but.... That's my take.

Yeah it's now 10:10 a.m. Eastern Time and it still says "Site is Closed". I wonder if i should go back on Live Chat and ask what the deal is and when its going to open back up again.

tried chat again and i got this

Thank you for your patience. A Technical Support Representative will be with you shortly.

You are now chatting with 'Burt'

Burt: Unfortunately due to the nature of the Test Server, I do not have an answer for that question. Your weapons may or may not be restored.

Bart Blade: ok thank you

I do not think losing our weapons should cause any panic, because at the rate of the drop - which happens ever so frequently, you can get back all your weapons in a day or two.

In an hour or two, you could have even filled up your weapon inventory, as long as Disney does not decide to decrease the frequency of the plunder from enemies.

Here's to hoping luvbug is right. Glug glug. I was having a lot of fun testing out the new system. However I'm also patient enough to give Disney the time they need to fix the issue. I'm sure they have a LOT of code to go through to find the problem(s). As for whether or not we get the weapons back, I agree with Big Bad Wolf. I'm really not worried about it. The loss of the weapons I found in one day of testing is not a big deal at all.

Aye, give me a rusty cutlass and a little while with a boss and I'll be ready to take on the world again. That being said I had nothing specail before the update. If I had finished a High level quest for clothes or weps I might feel a bit different. I still think you could probably get what you had or better quickly but you did do the work for it. I wouldn't bet on getting your stuff back. Just the number of accounts and all of them having 4 people adds up to alot of pirate loot gone. So unless they have a big BACK button to reset it to the way it was I would think not.

All in a day's work as a tester I guess. But I've been test for almost a year now and don't remember anything as wildly messed up as this though.

I initially started this just warn people what might happen if they log in. It is not the loss of the new weapons that worries me. Those are plentiful and fun to look for. But some of us also lost gold and all our clothes and our original weapons. Again, not a real problem as long as long as they don't have to totally reset the server. I would HATE to start from level 1 again.

I can say this about the new update. Once it is fixed, it is a game changer for me. On the best of days I hate level grinding. But once you finish the game, what else is left? But on the one day that the update worked well, level grinding didn't feel like level grinding. It was more like treasure hunting. It made the mindless mouse clicks of fighting of random foes feel purposeful and fun again, even though I had absolutely nothing to accomplish.

I hope they can fix it.

Edit: I have to be honest. I am REALLY going to miss my Baboon Broadsword. :sadmh9: I loved that sword.

So are we gonna be able to play later on today? :'( :(

I may be totally wrong, but heres what I'm thinking... since the site has been closed for quite a while now, I'm afraid the developers saw what was happening, and closed the site because they didn't want more pirates losing all their stuff. Which leads me to think that they have no way of hitting a big BACK button for us to roll back to so we can have what we had. Maybe everyone that lost all their stuff will have to start all over. If this is the case, will they allow us to do the clothing quests over for those certain items from them that some of us like. Man, the developers are prolly working hard to fix the issue, Im not holding my breath on getting anything back. That's easy for me to say because I didn't lose anything important since I was on a fairly new pirate.

Im not asking these questions looking for answers, just posting my thoughts and questions that Im rolling over in my head. And I agree with Luvbug about if this bothers you, then maybe test isn't the place for you. I don't play on live at all, and haven't in over 8 months now. If all goes haywire, that's what I'm there for,.... so bugs like this doesn't go to live and happen there... could you imagine this bug on live. Oh how I laugh imaging that!!!

I think they can and have fixed the bug that caused the recent problems, the issue is what to do with what was lost. I think they are trying to recover everyones lost items. Think about it I know my pirate lost his staff and nades and when trying to buy more before they closed the game it told me I needed training but the quest to aquire these items was not available. So the only option is to tell everyone on test to scratch their pirates and start over or figure out a way to get at least what players had before the update back. Just my 2 cents.

I would be disappointed to lose all my quest weapons, but I am sure I can find something to replace them if they are truly lost. I do wonder about the weapons quests that were back in my journal when they first updated. If those remain, then I will be able to replace at least some of the weapons I lost.

I'm not so concerned about the clothing items since I never wore any of them on my main test pirate. I still have my ships, so it will only be a matter of time before I can replace all the gold that I lost, and I certainly won't mind going shopping again.

Honestly? If it gets fixed, I don't really care about what I lost. If I play on the test server, I need to be prepared for this kind of stuff.

Give me a rusty cutlass, some pants and I'll do the rest. :dancetl6:

Glad people realize that this is the purpose of test, make the game better for live :) Personally it won't bother me whatever happens, as long as the update is prepared to hit live. Kinda funny to see some people in game getting upset over it though.. :D

Plus... this update makes leveling more fun, as you are more focused on finding loot, rather than actually leveling :)

Rofl 7:00am in the morning EAStern time Monday and it's still closed! Now imagine Abassa if this hit open like this lol

It must be a pretty major fix for test to be down this long. Has this every happened before? (Just curious)

I'm glad they are making an all - out effort to fix it before they release it to open. Cudos to all the test pirates for sacrificing their time, effort, hard work (and evidently gold, clothes, weapons, and ships too) for the rest of us so that we can enjoy a bug-less game (not bug free, mind ya LOL ) :piratesing:

Kat

We're on day number 3 lol and its 9:11 a.m in the morning Eastern Time and its still closed! When is it gonna open today?! :'( :(

:laughks2: I would PAY to just stand in an out of the way corner on Abassa Tortuga and watch the show. :psmiley35:
Not since I've been on the test server. Almost a year I think. But this is a major update...
Hang in there. You can always play on an Open Server... :bookishfj7: Or read a book... :degen: ...or take fencing lessons... :psmiley27: ...or watch a scary movie... :laughks2: ... or a funny movie... :psmiley35: ...or learn to whistle Beethoven's Ninth... :william: ...or pretend you're a Super Ball. Does anyone remember Super Balls?

On a serious note. And I just started thinking about this and felt that it deserved its own post.

Sure, the test server has been down for almost three days now. Big deal. I spent some time on open. Something I haven't done in a long time.

So we are without the test server. Free accounts and most of us understand what comes with game testing. Bugs and glitches and fails and slow-downs and on and on and on.

But, and this is my comment, complaint, criticism, whatever... Where is the Two-Way Communication? I am not saying that the Dev Team owes us anything but how many testers are getting discouraged because they get no feedback on their input? A simple, "Thanks for hanging in there guys" would be enough, wouldn't it? Or even better, a forum on the test web site could solve almost all of the frustration people are obviously feeling.

Who wants to play and level and slog through new updates peeking in every corner, trying to set every trap and looking for every programming error they can and never be told, "Thanks?"

Just a thought...

EDIT: Thanks to all who PMed me. I have my answer so I took out the part where I asked. Again...THANKS TO ALL!

Any time I send in a bug report all does is thank me for my feedback. Half the time the bugs I report never get fixed.

One way communication with the developers would be nice. Just so I could type, "This is the bug, it's annoying, please fix it." A human response would make going on the test server more enjoyable. A thank you here and there would be nice.

Also, they fail to give us every bit of information that comes with updates. Did anyone remember seeing a post where someone picked up a navy hat? Does that mean we can wear a whole navy uniform? No idea, because they didn't tell us.

From the grog blog today
ADMIN GM Cayman Trench
Ahoy Robert Calicomorris! We are well aware of this issue on Test and its temporary inaccessibility. The recent inventory expansion is still a work in progress. Please have patience as we continue to work tirelessly to make it Pirate perfect for all of ye residents of the Caribbean.

ugh i just hope they open it today :( three days is enough for me

it is for a whole but they will not answer questions for test i have tried me self

Test Server Closed?
 

when I try logging into the test server I get "SiteClosed" is it down for anyone else?

tried it on 3 different computers

The test server is currently closed. There are two huge bugs known right now. One makes it so you can't put your cloths back on and another so your cloths and weapons completely disappear. You're literally robbed of all possessions.

Next time it's back up there should be a couple of fixes.

So is it gonna be back up today like this afternoon? :'( :( :/

James. Take a deep breath...My guess is NO. Test servers won't be back up today. But it's going to be OK. If you need a POTCO fix, go play on the open servers.

I am not a programmer but this feels like a very small problem, like a broken line of code, that set off a cascade reaction until the whole thing spun out of control. I would imagine that it is harder to find this sort of problem than it is to fix a giant one. Like looking for a needle in a haystack.

But I might be COMPLETELY wrong...

As long as they fix this issue, it shouldn't matter how long it takes to fix the problem. Re-opening test before this issue is fixed could cause even more problems, which would be a huge set back for the game. The live servers are where we're supposed to play the game, where as the test servers, we are helping the developers by testing, trying our best to help them prevent these issues from spreading to live.

I agree, given what has happened, there may be a minor problem causing a huge issue. The first day of the update, everything was fine. Everyone had what they collected, and what they previously owned. After a while game crashes became more frequent, and this bug came into being. So i'm just gonna guess that the code was fine, then something went wrong with a tiny portion of it when it was applied to the game.

yeah, I don't think communicating with players on Test is much of a priority anymore. Seems that it's been like this since Privateering went live. There always has been a fair amount of ambiguity with the Release Notes. They didn't even update the Test Launcher Game News with a closed blurb, though they did update the virtually unused POTCO Test Server web page

It's back up! Let's see what they fixed for now :piratear:

:/ still no weapons for one of my affected pirate lol.

No weapons for me though. However, I did notice one little thing (if anybody cares.) Disney added a little hint for all those effected by the "Great Pirate Depression," as I'm calling it:

http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/u...18-43-42-1.jpg

Well, at least now we all can have some fun regaining our weapons back :)

It's up! I have weapons and clothes. Today is good. Well so far...

...well maybe not so good. Still can't buy ammo or repair ships. Even though I do have weapons now the sword is the only one that works. Pistol does no damage, can't attune doll, and so on.

drops now do not show up in your chest nor does gold I just finished the pirate doll quest and Tia gave it to me but it disappeared

started a new pirate just to see and it appears the issues are only with existing pirates the new got drops and weapons with no problem

I can't spend my gold anywhere, nor can I get a rusty cutlass because I am a basic access test pirate. I tried repairing my teeny tiny light sloop, but the message came up "Trade Failed." I tried plundering some gold, but when I landed at Tortuga, I still only had 10 gold. I tried playing blackjack to get my gold, but when I placed my bet, nothing came up and it went on to the next player and no cards were dealt. I'm not sure if it's just because I'm basic all these things are happening, but just so you all know.....

Okay i guess they didn't fix it. because i got booted then my weapon,clothes, tonic still missing but the gold coin is kept. Well i guess we need to report it again.

Same Old Bug (for affected pirate):

Clothings from loot shows up in your inventory but do not try to change out of your current outfit, or you will lose it and have only your shorts / short sleeve shirt on. (which is permanent, lol)

Plundered weapons still does not register in the inventory (it doesnt show up at all). If you drag the plundered weapon from the take it all page to your inventory, u get a crash.

Once you log in again, all your gold and what nots are lost again and start from square zero. :/

Well. . . . Too late lol i already change it. Oh well. .

This stinks. I decided to test something... and it went just the way I was hoping it wouldn't go.

I moved my doll and dagger out of the F keys spot. It won't let me put them back in! I moved my pistol to another F spot, and I can't move it back. This probably means you can only move a weapon from one spot to the other ONE time. Not a fun bug.

I also moved a clothing item that was stored to a spot so I could wear it. Now I can't move it back, and the box color behind it is black. And it won't register that I put it on, so I'm only in boxers.

Same thing happens with potions. It seems the real bug is, you can only move something from the inventory one time. It will not let you move it again, and if it was cloths, it will not register that you put them on.

Seems pretty minor to me. I'm sure test was down because they were worried about something worse happening.

EDIT: And I can only use my cutlass, which is currently the only weapon I didn't move and the only weapon on F1.(of course) I think I'm one of the few that can sail, too.

EDIT: Anyone notice there are 14 guests viewing this thread? Not to scare any of them, but I wonder if any are developers, trying to get information to fix the bugs.

Maybe, but if they are that's a good thing. It's probably just some other test pirates looking to see what's going on too. If I wasn't a part of the forums, I'd probably be doing the same thing.

it subsided to nine, lol, if there were any they got the memo.

so um if you make a new pirate is the bug still there or do you get the weapons and stuff

Uh oh... anything picked up from the loot bags, except weapons, will disappear.

I got a level 14 cutlass but the cloths and gold I got aren't there.

EDIT: Dang, I picked up some cool looking cloths but I can't keep them. :(

i dont get anything no weapons nothing

Well, I played a new pirate for a little bit... got some loot drops... logged out and back on... NOTHING IN INVENTORY. So making a new pirate doesnt even work. Why would they bring it back online while it is still doing this??? I just watched my friend lose everything on her almost mastered pirate. What was D thinking???

yeah i go to barbossa and got the pistol and that is when everything when crazy

One question for anyone that will answer, where do I go to report bugs for the test server?

I haven't reported bugs in a while and I'm sure the feedback option doesn't get noticed a lot.

Also, I logged off of test and it won't let me back on. It says test is closed... again.

Yep test is closed for maintenance!

Site is closed for Maintenance, I wonder if they CAN fix it. LOL

I do love watching the chaos its causing, and I'm still leveling even though I only have my rusty cutlass.

However, I'm getting really mad at some peoples attitude on test. I'm sick of hearing them say how mad they are over this bug. Are you serious? Get off of test if this bothers you! And don't complain non stop about how unfair it is... GRRR!!!

Thanks. Just sent in a huge list of bugs for them.

Test is back up... Question is, Does it work?

Looks like my pirate dig get hit by the magical big BACK button... I had leveled her to lvl 17, but shes back to 15. Which is where I was when the update occurred.

I am able to put clothing on and off, move my weapons around, and all that jazz.

Test is back and i hear inventory back to normal

Mine is saying "Server appears to be temporarily unavailable, still trying..." Is everyone logging in at once? Hahaha

Mine says the same thing, and then it says you have been disconnected from server. Ive been trying for over an hour. Guess some of us arent gonna be able to log on. :(

It seems as though the whole test server was reset. HOWEVER, I think this completely fixed the inventory system.

I started moving things around in the inventory system just for the heck of it, and everything is working completely fine. I mean, perfect.

Of course, I was a level 14 from leveling today, so I'm back down to 13. But it looks like reseting the whole game worked. Now aren't we glad we have a test server? If this were open, this would be a nightmare!

EDIT: Now I wonder what could have caused the inventory to get so messed up.
By the way, when taking a card(or possibly another item) from a loot chest when docking will cause you to crash. As said in the release notes.

Same to me and it is about 8 am eastern. Wondering what's up now... Is it Windows can't get on and Mac can now lol

I was on last night and almost all was well. On occasion, my "weapons belt" would show no weapons after I switched them around but I could access them if I hit the "F" keys. Taking them out and putting them back was a work around. I reported it. Other than that, everything was as smooth as silk.

I got reset but the release notes say that the problem came from a Sea Charm. If you placed one of those in your "weapons belt", you were doomed. Fix the curse of the sea charm, reset back to the pre-update save file and TA-DA...back in business baby!

Now. Was this a learning experience or what? Here's what I have learned from the Great Inventory Destruction of 2010:

• A couple of people I play with also come to POF and post.
• Some people on test don't know why they are on test.
• Some people on test think that it should be just like Open.
• Some testers have NEVER filed a bug report.
• Some people are VERY forgiving and patient.
• Some people are VERY unforgiving and impatient.
• Being a tester is sometimes a thrill ride.
• People on POF are quick to offer assistance when asked.
• This update has made POTCO fun again. For me at least.

Anyway, feel free to add yours.

Semper Fidelis mates. :dancetl6:

and.. test is once again closed bum bum bum..... :'( :( :/

And that is more than likely why Test is down. They have stuff to fix, and with the possibility of resetting test once again, why should they let people continue playing until everything is done?




I couldn't agree more. I especially like the last one about the update making the game fun again, for at least some people. I think you also summed it up perfectly in another post, the update makes leveling seem less like button mashing and more like treasure hunting. When the update was put on Test, going around looking for treasures (among other things), I leveled quite a bit. It actually helped a lot, considering I used to be unable to test so much due to being too low of a level. In no time i'll finally be able to see what the higher level (15-20) weapons do (or don't do.. considering where it is :D).

I would rather that they concentrate on fixing the glitches and other problems in the game, who cares about my inventory it will be fun to get that back on my own. This Pirate won't be broke long long.

Is that what we're calling it now? :D

Anyways, hopefully when test is back up Mac users will be able to play the game and some of the other bugs will be fixed.

I don't think it's likely they'll be reseting the servers again, since putting on and taking off cloths worked perfectly fine and the weren't too many problems with changing weapons from one slot to another.

And just one comment. After playing test for a couple of hours yesterday, I was able to get a total of twelve new weapons. I'll be selling them once I get a better weapon to use, but it's amazing to see how many weapons we can get.

Also, can someone confirm to me how to use grenades? It doesn't look like they'd be going in the same slot as the inventory, but in the area with the amo, so how do you use them?

Hmm thought it was the Great Depression of Pirates lol

lol that would be odd indeed

To use grenades with the new inventory system, you equip the grenade pouch in one of the weapon slots. I was able to get a ton of new, unique weapons: 14 total shooting weapons, 6 swords, 4 sabres, 3 broadswords, plus a Navigation Sea Chart and a Cannon Ram.

Thanks Sureshot.

And just to ease the tension some of us are having, here are some pictures of the new inventory system I took yesterday.

Cool Sword I picked up.

The attack in the bottom that looks like heal is heal. When you use it you swish your sword around and you get some HP back.

The General left us a present. :)

All the weapons I got from yesterday. Most are common.

Just a regular loot sack.

EDIT: Forgot to say, when a weapon has a red box behind it, that means you're too low a level of that weapon to use it.

Nice. lol :):laughks2: and is that.... the golden sword they showed us in the developers diary back in July of 2009? :)

well yes but i am basic... how am i supposed to buy a weapon?

Hmm... not sure, and I couldn't find the developer diary so I wouldn't know. Wonder what happened to them, because I used to look back on them and now I don't know where they are.

Go to The Pirates Online Site then find Site Map that should help. :)

You're not. It keeps saying everything is locked for basic members, including the rusty cutlass. I'm just staying off of test for a few days until I can either a) go on as an Unlimited member or b) Get some sort of weapon to get more weapons.