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Captain Del 11-25-2009 01:19 AM

Even with flaws in the next chapter, would you be pleased?
 
I've noticed that everybody is always so eager about wanting Disney to release the Second Story Chapter. And surely, everybody knows when Disney rushes things out, theres bound to be something wrong with it, or something we don't like. So, I'm just interested. If Disney does fall under the pressure and rush out the new story chapter, even if it does have holes, flaws and/or glitches, would you still be pleased with it being out?

The kind of holes, flaws and glitches I'm talking about, of course, are those like the unability to continue with the quest, it being extremely short and simple, etc. I'm just interested.

toanuju22 11-25-2009 02:29 AM

I would be pleased with any new content regardless of bugs, it just would give pirates a thing to talk about.

swordshot 11-25-2009 02:35 AM

Hmm are you talking about another POTC movie so they can add another boss battle,more quest,more rooms and more islands? i that is what you are talking anout then yes!

Captain Del 11-25-2009 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by i rock6336 :D (Post 180430)
Hmm are you talking about another POTC movie..

No, I'm just talking about the next story chapter they've been promising.

Aaron McEagle 11-25-2009 02:57 AM

I don't want a new story chapter that is all messed up!
I would rather have a better chapter longer wait than a terrible chapter with shorter wait!

jason davy 11-25-2009 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Aaron McEagle (Post 180436)
I don't want a new story chapter that is all messed up!
I would rather have a better chapter longer wait than a terrible chapter with shorter wait!

I agree. I said maybe, a few small bugs are probably inevitable but having to wait a while longer for a more solid quest is worth it IMO.

Angel Seafish 11-25-2009 03:44 AM

I said maybe. But if it was completely messed up, then no.

Captain Grizzly 11-25-2009 04:46 AM

Voted no on this. I would love to see the next story as much as anyone but I would prefer it be as ready as possible to run on the open servers versus being rushed out. For now I have plenty do with 5 more pirates to level, some with quests still to do. I can wait.

ukebec 11-25-2009 05:06 AM

I had to say no. I'm one who saw the existing Boss Battle (story quest ultimate challenge - i.e.; Pearl vs Goliath) in game and then taken down for months before it could be fixed and re-introduced into the game. I don't want a repeat of that.

I'd like more legitimate, detailed communication between big D and the players on where they realistically stand with the next chapter, and then, once they believe it's viable, for it to be released onto test for a long enough period that they can get accurate reporting on all of the problems.

Then I'd like to see them back up, tell everyone what they've found and how long they anticipate it will take to get it corrected, and fix the silly thing as completely as they can before releasing onto open.

That's what test is supposed to be used for, right? Not a black hole of reporting.

IMHO

The Skirata Clan 11-25-2009 05:07 AM

The only thing I ask is to stop Disney from being vague about it. Just say its taking X amount of time to create and the X amount in test. If something goes wrong it will take X amount to fix. Just don't say "soon" then make us wait days, then ,months, those then years...

Captain Whale 11-25-2009 04:41 PM

I would be happy to wait until they have it ready to go. It's no fun to play if everything is buggy. I am enjoying all the new stuff they have going on right now.

Captain Whale

skullduggery bones 11-25-2009 04:42 PM

Good grief in this day and age it seems no one is prepared to wait anymore. It's all rush, rush, rush. Get things out and NOW!! Who cares if they are vague. Isn't it enough to know there is new content coming??
I would hate to be in Disneys shoes What a job they must have trying to satisfy eveyone who ever played. I'm sure they have anticipated dates for everything that comes out, but sometimes, things happen and they cant put it out when they want to. I'd rather have new content out when it's ready, with minimal bugs and flaws, and if that means waiting a little longer then thats fine by me.
Until then I can still find loads of things to do online, and I play up to 8 hours a day, most days. So, unless you have an account with 4 pirates all maxed out at 50, weapons maxed and all quests done, don't tell me you are bored or that there is NOTHING to do because it just ain't so.

Eliza Creststeel 11-25-2009 05:38 PM

Well, even the First Chapter wasn't perfect. And they've tweaked it since then to fit the updates.

So, Chapter Two will likely follow the same way. As newer updates come along, whatever they've got done would likely have to be tweaked.

The Skirata Clan 11-25-2009 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by skullduggery bones (Post 180503)
Good grief in this day and age it seems no one is prepared to wait anymore. It's all rush, rush, rush. Get things out and NOW!! Who cares if they are vague. Isn't it enough to know there is new content coming??
I would hate to be in Disneys shoes What a job they must have trying to satisfy eveyone who ever played. I'm sure they have anticipated dates for everything that comes out, but sometimes, things happen and they cant put it out when they want to. I'd rather have new content out when it's ready, with minimal bugs and flaws, and if that means waiting a little longer then thats fine by me.
Until then I can still find loads of things to do online, and I play up to 8 hours a day, most days. So, unless you have an account with 4 pirates all maxed out at 50, weapons maxed and all quests done, don't tell me you are bored or that there is NOTHING to do because it just ain't so.

I will gladly wait all they want, knowing new content is coming is good, but just don't say "soon". I would rather hear them say "it will come out October 2010" then hear "soon". That is just an attempt to keep the paying players in-game.

Now what entertains a player is different from in each one. Maybe some like grinding and leveling, some others like to hang out with others, others enjoy a good quest, heck there are some that like to grieve others. Therefore, you might understand that a few pirates might be impatient.

I am always someone that wants to see things done right rather than right now. I always get amused at the very limited testing time they allow the testers. And the attention they pay to them.

Eliza Creststeel 11-25-2009 08:08 PM

As someone who works for a software firm, it's practically IMPOSSIBLE to hit a release date. And I doubt there are ROOMS full of C++ and coders pounding away on this.

Our company is very small and tons of unforeseen issues crop up and things never seem to move forward, all while the client is complaining that no matter how fast you are - its never fast enough.

Angel Stormwalker 11-25-2009 08:18 PM

i would wait even longer just to have no holes or bugs to another chapter. they have enough issues as it is

Dr. Zeppers 11-25-2009 08:30 PM

I dont think any update should be released without being 'completed' and thoroughly tested. But looking at POTCOs approach on past updates however I cannot believe that this "idea" is the reason for any delay. Being 'buggy' has not slowed them from going live before, why would it now?

I hope they come out with the story chapter when its ready, and I do hope its soon.
When? Quite frankly after having waited 18 months already, "NOW" is actually quite a reasonable expectation from a business/client relationship perspective, which we are all in with POTCO when we 'pay to play'....

Treating the subject like its brand new, and as if noones been waiting a long time already is rather misleading, and does a disservice IMO to the community. However on the flipside, it does POTCO a great service of delivering POTCOs propaganda to cover up how slow things have come along. Unfortunately that seems to be the attitude one must have to receive POTCO managements light of favoritism, and be invited to special unannounced engagements/events.

The Skirata Clan 11-25-2009 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Zeppers (Post 180531)
I dont think any update should be released without being 'completed' and thoroughly tested. But looking at POTCOs approach on past updates however I cannot believe that this "idea" is the reason for any delay. Being 'buggy' has not slowed them from going live before, why would it now?

I hope they come out with the story chapter when its ready, and I do hope its soon.
When? Quite frankly after having waited 18 months already, "NOW" is actually quite a reasonable expectation from a business/client relationship perspective, which we are all in with POTCO when we 'pay to play'....

Treating the subject like its brand new, and as if noones been waiting a long time already is rather misleading, and does a disservice IMO to the community. However on the flipside, it does POTCO a great service of delivering POTCOs propaganda to cover up how slow things have come along. Unfortunately that seems to be the attitude one must have to receive POTCO managements light of favoritism, and be invited to special unannounced engagements/events.

Well said Doctor! All so true.

Jack I 11-26-2009 06:06 PM

Personally I would not want to see any new features released very buggy. A buggy release is, in my opinion, worse than waiting longer for a good release. It has been a very long time since we have seen an update regarding a story chapter, and I admit that I am quite impatient now myself, but I would rather wait for something I can enjoy than get something I cannot.

Angel Seafish 11-26-2009 07:57 PM

Depending on how serious the bug is. If it was rushed and there was NOTHING good about it, then there was no point.

davy redflint 11-26-2009 11:57 PM

they move lvl up...but no quest line to go with them still waitin on somthing beside grindin

Capt C Ray 11-28-2009 04:41 AM

I agree with Captain Grizzly. New updates should be released when ready. And as far as the second story line, Disney will release it when it's ready.

And one of the best ways to get noticed and invited to special events is to play the game for fun, be helpful to all pirates, and always have a positive attitude when writting posts.

Maximvs 11-28-2009 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Del (Post 180412)
I've noticed that everybody is always so eager about wanting Disney to release the Second Story Chapter. And surely, everybody knows when Disney rushes things out, theres bound to be something wrong with it, or something we don't like. So, I'm just interested. If Disney does fall under the pressure and rush out the new story chapter, even if it does have holes, flaws and/or glitches, would you still be pleased with it being out?

The kind of holes, flaws and glitches I'm talking about, of course, are those like the unability to continue with the quest, it being extremely short and simple, etc. I'm just interested.

I'm going to admit - I've avoided this thread like the plague :D but not because I have no interest in it...

Out of my few thousand posts on these forums - I'm pretty sure a few hundres of those have been me posting VERY long winded posts about how a storyline should of come along before now, about times and anniversaries with no releases, about my and others fustrations. I had to go back to see what I actually said in some of those there had been so many.

It was one of my first posts though that really answered the question for me in this case though. When I first got the game - I couldn't sail. The sail-crash glitch with ATI cards. What a pain that was. Almost my entire first month was spent on Port Royal... and only Port Royal. Everytime I went to sail - *poof*. You know how many L3 Guards you have to kill when your stuck on that island for a month to Level that Sword? LOL :D

If we're talking about releasing a storyline where bugs like that existed and I though there were many players that couldn't go farther than point X in the story? Then no - keep it on test. Since we all know that releases will come on open with some issue - lets just hope that the number is few anf far between - they fix as much on test as possible, and they fix issues as fast as possible once it hits open.

sushi064 04-05-2010 04:05 AM

Yes!
 
YES!

I would just be pleased when they finally roll out a second chapter. If there are any bugs, players would just report them and a fix would be released.

blaster54 04-15-2010 01:06 AM

to tell u the truth i dont care about any bugs i just wanna fight the kraken! ;(

sushi064 06-04-2010 02:27 AM

YES! I recently finished the Black Pearl quest and was pretty much lost after that, until I found the Jewelry and Clothing quests to increase my rep to level up 2 Lvl 30.

sushi064 06-04-2010 02:29 AM

*sigh
 
Sometimes, I hate Disney. They say to expect updates "very soon" and very soon never comes. About a year ago, a GM or someone said to expect ship customization within the next 30 days. Well, many long and wide 30-day periods have lapsed and now here we stand without ship customization or many other updates promised to be rolled out "soon".

James Bladefury 06-04-2010 02:22 PM

If you guys dont remember the developer diary that said about the kraken, it said this: "...Since game performance is the foundation to everything, it just makes sense that we fix that first before adding new content, Story Quests and raising those Level and Gold caps." and... "The Kraken: ...Well, it is basically our next story chapter, MANY THINGS WILL BE TIED TO IT, such as Notoriety increases, NEW STORY Quests (like the casa de muertos lost weapons quest), and so much more."

Yes, make sure the story chapter is perfect before its released.

Raikel 06-05-2010 01:01 AM

You have to think most of all. How long will this next chapter be, and will it be more than just finding folks to help you sail the Pearl. I do not really care to just take out certain ships and kill a certain number of one enemy. I am glad we are getting new islands, which means a possibility of more enemies. (Not crossing my fingers of the undead not looking like previous undead enemies of lower levels.). I do however want another force against us, something like Voodoo Warriors. People who use the forces of the Earth to attack their enemy.

I hope this update will add enemies with Staves and Fire arms as well. Having an Undead Marksman would be a rather appropriate enemy that would use a Musket. Other Undead enemies with Blunderbusses, Repeaters and Pistols would be appropriate too. I do expect more types of staves as well when we can finally reach Ravens Cove. Undead Shamans should have these Staves, but it should be Random as to which type of Staff the Shaman has.

All out, if they are going to make the Story quest really long, and when somebody finally hits a certain point, and it suddenly resets. I would definitely think that the Story Quest would be pointless.

ruisen2000 06-28-2010 09:12 AM

I would be happy even with flaws. It's too long since we get something new that i'm desperate enough to still be happy with it. And if there is flaws i can start complaining, it would keep me from boredom for a while XD


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