PotCO vs PotBS
 

Pirates of the Caribbean Online vs Pirates of the Burning Sea

I have been looking into both games and i have to be honest PotBS looks alot better then PotCO. Now I have played PotBS and only limited (except for beta when I was unlimited) so it may seem I know more about PotBS.

Pirates of the Burning Sea

Pros:
Tons of ships to choose from
Great Graphics
PvP designated zones
4 Nations to choose from (that includes pirate)
Realistic (as in speed when against wind and with it, no spells, historically accurate for most things (if not all))
Mostly focused on sea battles (even tho theres lots of islands and land)
Good guild system
Allow users to submit content and if its accepted gets put in game
ALOT of character customization (missions unlock new clothing and stuff ex. eye patches, wooden legs, parrots, dif logos for clothes)
Can group up alot of people for fights
PvE is loaded into a private battle so only group members can come in or other people if you call for help if your out numbered
Players can sell or make things (Ex. I could make cannon balls for my guild (society) or even ships)
Has its own economy (Auctions and free trade)
Mature players and role players
Can get stuff to make you or your ship stronger (stronger stern, dodging shoes, etc.)
3 different fighting styles (Florentine (short sword and dagger), Fencing (swords), Dirty Fighting (cutlass and pistols))

Cons:
Gotta go out and buy it (lol)
Pay To Play
Sorta complex game style
Takes VERY LONG time to go across the map
Can get boring
Simple sword fighting (It is like WoW where you just press a button but you can get alot of different kinds of moves and tactics)

Pirates of the Caribbean Online

Pros:
Some not too serious players
Fun sea battles
Well written and known storyline
Not bad graphics (but not great)
VERY addicting game play
Multiple people can be on a ship
Can aim a cannon and fire different balls if your on a friends ship

Cons:
Not that great guild set-up
Gotta be in clicking range of person to wisper them
Very few ships
ONLY pirate available
Mainly PvE
Gonna have free (VERY limited) paid (unlimited) servers (should all be free)
Servers seem very laggy for some reason in limited
Players gank your kills or just try to get rep off your hard work
ALOT of little kids that play
Seems to crash if you got to good of a computer? (I got 4-5 times the reqs and it black screens but I hear everything)

Both:

Ship boarding for sword fights
Some kind of guild system
Fun sea battles

Now thats all i can think of right now. I've shown some people PotBS and they have the same thoughts as me. Put down what you think and please dont flame me.

EDIT: Updated since I have bought and played PotBS

I also am thinking that pirates of the burning sea will be better than pirates of the caribbean. I have several reasons to support my decision. If you look at many different mmorpg comparison sites, potbs has a lot more hype than potco. The thing that majorly draws me away from potco is seeing what disney has done with Toontown. Toontown has been out for hmm about 8 years now?And still no significant additions? Now you might be think that cashbot hq is major but its not much when compared to other games. There have been no new expansions to Toontown and the game mechanics have remained the same and the game is just getting boring due to disney's lack of providing a "major" update. Im talking about a update where you could be 200 laff and there would be a whole new world, thats about where they should be at with about 8 years of production on Toontown. Take World of Warcraft for an example, I got bored of it and no longer played it, but Blizzard makes a major attempt at keeping players subscribed to it with patches about every month and the burning crusade expansion and the wrath of the lich king expansion comming soon, yet WoW has only been out for about 4 years since 2004. So previous experience with disney is drawing me away from it. I think PotBS has better graphics and since flying labs is a stand-alone company where they don't run several different services like disney does so I believe that they will be Similar to Blizzard, and be able to focus on their MMORPG. Now yes POTCO does a free limited version but I doubt it'll be worth playing, it'll be like toontown where you can play for a day and get so far that you must pay to progress. Im also going have to say that Disney's games are just too easy, you can max a toon in a week of non-stop play, its not very common to go sad at all because you can just alt+f4 in a vp/cfo/cj fight and get no punishment. I also HATE the fact and the fact I hate most, disney is aimed for the younger age group. I am older than 13 so I want something thats more hard-core and aimed for the older age group. Disney has also done terrible at giving their games replay value, yes you can create a new and try out that new gag that you didn't get with your other toon, but all toons are equal and its the same boring storyline(or is there a storyline of toontown?). You do the same tasks, you take the same path no matter what species or chose or anything, all toons are equal, theres no differrence in toons besides their looks. I also am looking for realistic graphics, NOT toontown graphics being put into a pirate game.

Now...My reply to your post:
I agree with several of the things you said except that ship boarding has been implemented into POTBS so thats not a pro of POTCO. PVP is a major role of mmorpg's games these days and that is also another thing that POTCO lacks. Yes you can duel players but whats the point?Theres no fun in that. Toontown has NO pvp which is bad.

Well after all of my negative thoughts of Disney...There is one major thing that I like about disney is their ability to get you hooked to the game quickly and make you want to be the best character in the game which keeps me playing toontown :)

thanks for agreeing with me and pointing out that PotBS has the ship boarding. Do you know if PotBS will be Pay to Play or just buy at retail and its free?

There hasn't been any details about the release date yet but it will be pay to play and you will most likely have to buy it at retail. Althought POTCO may not require you to buy from retail, I am still willing to pay for a retail game considering that it is retails probably because the game is so large. Now consider the download time it takes to get POTCO, doesn't take that long does it?

It is FORSURE going to be buy from retail and Pay 2 Play. But to me it seems worth it because game looks kick butt. They dont know tho if they will forsure use time cards (they most likely will tho to get more people who dont got credit cards)

lol, you guys are acting like they COULDNT have better graphics. Since potco has lower system requirements, it doesn't exclude people from enjoying it's full potential. Yes, it lacks with some of its detail and graphic quality, but it's entertainment that counts, not to mention simple- unhindered fun, after playing potco, I don't see why more pvp would be necessary, besides I'm pretty sure potbs will have the same run of the mill rpg fighting style, while potco actually has some action rpg aspect to it. I really enjoy the potc storyline and I love the characters and movie. This game is much more nestalgic for me than potbs, and that's worth all of it's flaws. I'll probably try pirates of the "B.S," but play to pay just doesnt work for me.

I think that POTCO has a lot of potential, but, I doubt it's going to be enough to where it's actively something to be worth paying for. If anything, I think that it should be free or you have to pay for it alltogether. I dislike these games like club penguin that make you kinda want to play it, but you really are not interested because you can't do much in it. If that's the fate of POTCO, Then it may already be doomed. Disney makes such a big deal of " Living the life of a pirate " when all we'll be able to do is a few things unless we pay? What kind of a game is that? I think Disney really needs to rethink the way they do this before stepping up to the plate. If they EVER are going to compete against WOW, POBS, and even video game consoles such as the Xbox 360 and the Wii, They have to make it to where it's new, entertaining, and fun.

if you actually research the PotBS game you will see that it will make PotCO look like crud in every aspect (and thats without looking at graphis). It is more realistic , and just plain out fun for tactical and sea battle lovers. As for the Pay to Play not "working" for you then i guess you wont be enjoying PotCO for much time after its released.

1.If your computer is old then maybe you would go with POTCO but my pc isn't that old.
2.PVP is what POTCO does lack. There is none. I did a little bit of PVP today and geuss what you earn?Nothing.
3.POTCO will be pay to play. Yes there is a limited(free) version of it, but expect the limited version to be like Toontown's limited version.

And i get to play PotBS from today till the 7th (stress test) :D

Yea i've played it some and it is awesome!The graphics are just amazing. The swordfighting is aweful but the official DEV's even admit that its aweful so expect it to be changed :/

The games have entirely different target audiences.
Hardly fair to compare them... kinda like comparing toontown and WoW or Vanguard or LotRo... there is no comparisson.

The name of Pirates of the Burning Sea says it all: Pirates BS (rotfllll). POTCO is way better. I looked at the screenshots for BS and it actually seems as if it's more cartoony than POTCO lol. But it still look like it will stink.

No, Toontown has been out for 4 years -- it launched in June 2003.

That's just plain ridiculous, show me anyone who's maxxed a toon in a week. Can't be done. You can't even BUY the good fishing rods for a few weeks.

That's fine, feel free to pick from the dozens of MMORPGs out there that are designed for your age group. I actually like that Disney's designing games for the younger kids and the "casual gamers".

Well, there you go! :)

I agree with you there. I also like that I can jump onto Toontown or POTCO for just an hour and actually make some progress. Too many of the other big MMORPGs don't really provide that -- it often takes an hour just to assemble a group for a major quest. I don't usually have that kind of free time available.

POTBS wins hands down i beta test it and its awesome way better and more ships a better guild system countries cna siege ports also the graphics are way better stroyline is better and its the same price monthly so just use ur brain and think

Whichever game actually allows guild to have their own spit of land for meetings is
where I will be. Guilds need that. >_<

I am not sure what game I am looking forward too. I love the PotC world, so I might stick with that. I will def look into PotBS when reviews starting coming out.

POTCO look more like True pirates. its has great grafs to, it is also like Legendery stuff like voo doo dolls.. ill say POTCO. Any way it would be like toontown And VMK. the will always get updated.

The one big difference I notice when I read their forums was the devs post to that forum and tell everyone whats goin on. Too bad Disney wont elt the devs do that too. Sure a good way for customer service. Instead we get generic emails :h-confused:

I would love to try POTBS, just because the graphics look amazing and I would like to try being part of the Navy.

I personally am fine with POTCO. I like the theme, and I like the cartoony feel.
I also like voodoo! Hehe!

for one thing pirates of the caribbean is far from realistic pirates.pirates didnt used to go and wander around and drink some rum.They were hunted by the navy other pirates and privateers which doesnt happen in POTCO also they could attack anyone anywhere without asking for a duel

Secondly POTBS has plans to allow guilds to own certain islands like the Guild Wars Saga allows
they both will cost $10 a month to play and u can either get lame graphics and hardly any realism at all or u can get superb graphics tons of ships ports to invade and conquer and closeness to the time period

THEY BOTH STINK!!
well potco is worse, if you TRUELY want to see the staffs lack of detailness and artwork. Pm me ill show you the flat trees, areas u can nudge into by jumping, ill show you what disney really is.
POTCO IS FANTASY

POTBS is not fantasy, therfore, no magic, no spells, now that right there makes it no mmorpg. The rest of it is great though.

I think POTCO is better, because it has a actual storyline from the very big series of POTC. Disney knows how to make addicting games, and I'm for sure going to play POTCO hands down.

not much of a storyline and now its nearly impossible to sink ships without a full crew

Actually, it has a storyline. They took most of it from the movies, and turned into a game.


PotBS has no storyline, and you just do pirate stuff, and no backbone to it...


It'a really easy to sink a ship... I go out alone on my Light Sloop, and take down Ironwalls, Phantoms ( 17 ), and Centurions. So, it is easy.

POTBS. *Giggle*. Pirates of the BS. *Giggle*. Game that's full of BS. *Giggle*
Oh, and it's being handled by Sony Station. Which means it now officially is BS.

make its POTCOvs.Voyage Century then that game has an awesome storyline and great graphics also u can own countries and cities and Voyage Centruy is free now what am i going to play:laughks2:

If the water in PotBS looked like the sea in POTCO, that would be awesome!

Why, is the sea in BS really bad looking?

[QUOTE=Bellatrix;10786]Whichever game actually allows guild to have their own spit of land for meetings is
where I will be. Guilds need that. >_<[/QUOTE

next update on Voyage Century and guilds design their own island/city

I love POTCO and i'm happy with it! I dont think i'll ever even try POTBS

I have a con to add to PotBS, Sony have a hand in making it.

I played Sony's Star Wars Galaxies for 4 years and the quality was extremely poor, it started off well but then they grafted another system on top of the original (NGE) and reduced it to a fraction of it's former depth.

Updates took many months to come out and despite having a test server to iron out bugs they still let no end get through to the live update.

My all time favorite MMO company is Turbine who make Asheron's Call, updates every month without fail and bugs were dealt with fast.

I agree, Sony stinks at making MMOs.

actually sony doesnt handle anything to do with he game except advertising duties.

The updates are always planned ahead of time, and if something goes wronf with an update being bugged, the devs tell us sorry and give us bonus items to make up for the mistake.

you cant compare a beautiful game like potbs to a cheap toon town copy like potco.

I can design my own sails and use them on my ship. can you?

sure you can....... but not in potco.

potbs has port contention battles, the best pvp ever, an in depth economy featuring user made items. all items are user made. from each cannon to every ship, all of it was manufactured by other players.

potbs lets you keep the derelict ships. does potco? nope.

potbs lets you join multiple factions. how about potco? just pirates....

potbs has over 350 available ships in game. potco? lol

in conclusion dont judge a game on someone elses opinion, develop your own!

only if you have a computer thats twenty years old.

put the setting on medium and you'll be amazed!

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PotBS has no storyline, and you just do pirate stuff, and no backbone to it...
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pirate stuff?
thats not all...
theres french, spanish and brittish stuff aswell

Okay, I've seen Burning Sea.

Yeah. It's gorgeous. Will I play it regularly? Nope.

I already play tabletop games that have thousands of "units", each with their own individual specs. Heck, I own the company that produces it!

I, personally, don't want to have to track that stuff in a computer game. I want to be able to just sign on, hop my ship, and go plundering. If I die, I wind up in jail, bust out, repair up, and go plundering some more.

Simplicity and straightforwardness. I don't want to get involved in some huge pseudo-historical mechanic about why I can or cannot do a certain thing. If this means I don't shoot "people" in-game, so-be-it.

I was showing a buddy of mine POTCO today. Then he showed me WoW. And, again, it reinforced the reason I don't play WoW. He was griping about the auction market being out of whack because other players were gaming the economy. Not to mention the sheer complexity of all the gizmoes, doodads, and magical thingamajiggers you have to track in addition to your stats.

Note, I'm NOT against complexity in something like POTCO. I'm just not ready to have to memorize a tome (or keep it handy) just to operate effectively in the game. I play the game to escape reality for a bit.

If you want to remember if refit A has more X than refit D, but not as much Y as variant L, that's great. More power to you, and I hope you enjoy Burning Crusade.

Personally I'd just be happy with POTCO allowing us to customize our broadsides, providing meaningful activities for pirate masters, and keeping us in decent quests then I'm good.

I agree. I checked out POTBS, not very happy with it. The game is too complex for just tryin to get away from reality. Its a game! Not to mention I look like a dog begging when I run, I mean how realistic is that? Everyone says its more realistic, thats nice, I want something that is fun and easy to understand. The storyline is easy to follow (oops, my bad there is none in POTBS). Yeah you can make your own ship, customize it any way u want, but wow, does it look like a scene from an old Atari game?

I do like some of the graphics, she sharks in the water, the Kracken too. But IMO, give me simplicity! I'm not a stupid person, but even I had a bit of fun tryin to figure out wth was goin on in the game. Put me on POTC and let me play my pirate, be my pirate and kick ur pirates butt!!!

ok POTBS looks great but yea its not short term im looking for its the long term bc id rather not spen a whole year of my life building up my pirate only for the producers to slow down, stop updating, downgrading servers, and pretty much abandon the game.

knowing disney they wont let that happen bc well its got to Disney name on it (on vmk case however sometimes i wonder if disney even knows vmk exists) and they would rather not tarnish it. Plus i see great potential for this game with the updates :laughks2:

Lol.. PotBS is really terrible. It is pay-to-play, fyi..

POTBS is implementing guild ownership of buildings by this summer.
POTCO will continue being bland, as its for little kids.

We can all say what we think but it boils down to one simple fact....

If you are a kid, you prefer potco.

on the other hand....
If you are adult who enjoys playing a mmo that requires skills and strategy rather than hack and slash play, you prefer potbs.

If you are all about graphics potbs wins hands down.
POTCO is made to run on slow out of date computers, so they obviously have major restrictions, but even on the highest graphic settings, potco is way below average for mmo's.

POTBS allows chatting with game developers, so you are never out of the loop as to whats being done. (6 updates in the last 3 weeks, one being 1 gb!)

POTBS allows you to attack players from another nation who come to your town.

POTBS will have the ability to be the mayor of a town.

POTCO allows you to play a game with a bunch of kids, and be nailed by constant bugs and glitches.

You can continue talking bad about potbs, but look around you....

POTCO is a joke.

FYI... whats so terrible about it? the fact that you cant afford it?

lol, the movies are drying up and the next one wont be released for a few years.

the movies are the only reason anyone plays potco.

the game will die off.

and FYI, POTBS has way more updates than potco, and the devs actually interact with you, instead of behind the scenes.

The fact that not only do u have to pay for the initial game, but then pay monthly....thats the joke. If you dont like POTC so much, why are u still here? Ur pirate is a lvl 36, so that means either u have ADD or are a kid.....right? By ur description u mist have ADD.

Its all about personal preference. Ive said my part and I like POTC. Its got a long standing history with me. Ive loved the ride since I was a toddler and old enough to go on it. I went back 2 years ago and loved it just as much. I do not have ADD and am almost old enough to have a teenager of my own.....That just adds another category to ur list. Aduklts who enjoy the Magic and Adventure it brings without the merchants and farming PotBS brings.

Hmm, anyone ever notice their name fo the game? POT BS ****.

Not sure where the vitriol comes from.

1. I'm an adult.
2. I enjoy complex RPGs and combat simulations (Google up Starfleet Battles).
3. I don't enjoy complex MMOs. I prefer an MMO where interaction between players happens on an almost purely social level. That's fine. It's when you start getting inter-player commerce and all the min-maxing (I want boots that give a +3 X, a +16 Y, and only have a -3 Z, but all I can find is a +2, +15, -1!) that goes on in stuff like WoW that I almost instantly lose interest. I've done the munchkin min-maxing. It bores me. And having to try and buy or sell stuff in-game would have me buying a real-world gun and shooting real world people.

As to the "way more updates". I've been on about two months now and if I'm not mis-remembering things, POTCO has gone through about 14-18 updates. And yes, many of them were the "bugfix" type. So what?

For a moderate MMO, heck ANY software, that's a hell of a good patch schedule.

If you're griping about "not much new content", again, POTCO is due for it's first expansion in the June-July timeframe.

Note: I'm NOT saying POTCO is the greatest thing since pillage and plunder. It isn't. However, it's a perfectly acceptable fantasy pirate game.

Comparing it to a sim like POTBS merely does a disservice to BOTH products.

severval of my freind have already gone there, tellin me to join them, that pirates of bs is a lot better. i stay here awhile longer see what happen.

I've never tried POTBS but I might give it a shot. POTCO is still my favorite online game and if I try POTBS, I'll never get into the habit of playing it like I do POTCO. They might be slow on updates but I think that Disney is starting to make progress. What I don't get is why do some people have high lvl pirates on POTCO and think it's the worst game ever made? To me that sounds a little odd.....

I would also suggest Lord of the Rings Online its great if your into roleplaying and a realistic MMO

explain how elves are realistic LOL

anyway its a tie for me they target difference audiences POTCO is a computer contolled game (meaning you buy stuff from computers ect.) POTBS is a player controlled game (meaning there are actual jubs to be held and u buy stuff from others)

They arent buy paying Rent,getting a job,and having families is.

PotBS is better in every way, it's Pirates Online that looks the <snip>.. Disney cannot make good games, the end.

PotBS doesn't have eight year old players spamming swords and gun noises.. That's another thing that makes PotCO suck.

I updated the list alot for the PotBS side and from what I have experienced fromt he beta and limited PotCO. Remember these are my opinions so if you disagree just say what you think is wrong and I will try to find out if you are right or not.