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Augie Doodle 09-11-2009 09:01 PM

Disney announces 4th Pirates Movie!
 
Walt Disney Pictures has announced that a 4th Pirates of the Carribean movie is in production and will be in theaters in Summer of 2011! The Movie will be titled "On Stranger Tides" and Johnny Depp will be in the movie.

Source: AP News

The Skirata Clan 09-11-2009 09:04 PM

That's a year early than what they said some time ago. At least now there is a title.

Eliza Creststeel 09-11-2009 09:07 PM

So much for the Fountain of Youth rumors!

Juliana Maria 09-11-2009 09:08 PM

Just googled 'POTC 4 On Stranger Tides' and got back with TONS of hits. This looks promising! Hope its not some trick or I'll be one upset pirate.. Can't wait!!! :D I've been hoping they'd come out with the 4th, and now its even sooner than anticipated! Even better!!!!!!

Shnoodell 09-11-2009 09:31 PM

I thought it was going to be "The Fountain of Youth" ? hmm who cares, i guess that will inspire some story quest. not that i want to wait that long.

Sapphire Sweetfeather 09-11-2009 10:03 PM

From what I have read, National Treasure was also looking into doing the Fountain of Youth, so I guess National Treasure won. I think it's silly if they did, because at the end of the last pirates Jack had the map and it looked as if it were for the fountain of youth. Where as National Treasure just had the Prez asking Nicholas Cage's character to look into something that was in the Book of Secrets.

Midhav 09-12-2009 06:27 PM

well if ur right sapphire then maybe there will be some twist when jack is looking for the fountain. or maybe ur wrong and this title is basically something to do with the fountain of youth

Lily 09-12-2009 07:20 PM

Well it looks like it will be about the fountain of youth even though it's not in the title. It says on Wiki that it will be, granted that's Wiki so I'm not taking it as actual fact, maybe it only says so because of the rumors. I guess we'll have to wait and see!

ukebec 09-13-2009 04:42 PM

Here is the Disney banner for POTC4 and 2 pics from the D23 expo with Johnny Depp appearing onstage in full Captain Jack costume with Disney Chairman Richard (who goes by a common nickname that this site filter doesn't like). Cook. *Banner and photo credits to Karen and Mim!E from JohnnyDeppReads.com, respectively:

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u...c/P4banner.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u...johnnyd231.png

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u...johnnyd232.png



You can go to Amazon.com and read a user review of the 1987 book On Stranger Tides by Tim Powers. The story, boiled down, is about an English puppeteer-turned-accountant who is press-ganged into piracy. He encounters actual historical figures and places including the governor of the Carolina territories, Juan Ponce de Leon, Blackbeard the pirate, and yes, the Fountain of Youth.

No word yet on if the POTC4 script will follow the book at all, or is just borrowing the title or what.

MacIronhawk 09-13-2009 06:25 PM

"Disney is considering On Stranger Tides the first installment of a new trilogy."

I saw this in six different places, so I have no idea who made this statement. But... if this is true, I can't wait. Not only does it mean more movie entertainment, but it means more ingame content that will probably come.

Aaron McEagle 09-13-2009 07:34 PM

To bad I alerady know all the main points in all the upcoming movies!!!:laughks2:

Played Pirates of Carribean on the Wii... Tells you it all!!!:dancetl6:

Chris 09-13-2009 10:37 PM

Well who knows where this is going it could still be the fountain of youth since Miami is one corner of the Bermuda triangle that could be stranger tides :P anyway I cant wait for this movie to come out I wonder if POTCO will do anything special for its release!

Midhav 09-14-2009 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lily (Post 165882)
Well it looks like it will be about the fountain of youth even though it's not in the title. It says on Wiki that it will be, granted that's Wiki so I'm not taking it as actual fact, maybe it only says so because of the rumors. I guess we'll have to wait and see!

yes it is about the Fountain of Youth

Midhav 09-14-2009 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Eliza Creststeel (Post 165713)
So much for the Fountain of Youth rumors!

eliza the 4th movie is about the Fountain of Youth. its supposedly based on a book with the same name that says something about a Jack Shandy seeking revenge for his uncle and enters the caribbean while some blackbeard guy brings a group of undead and living to find the fabled fountain of youth.

Lisa 09-21-2009 11:52 PM

Not too sure about the legitimacy of this source but an alleged insider has stated the following:

Quote:

"The ending of Pirates 3, the fountain of youth story might not be the only story they might used the next pirates film. The fountain story could used in another form to introduce the story for Pirates 4… the next film might be a departure from the same formula of the last three movies as well, meaning that Jerry Bruckheimer could be planning to enter the realm of Science Fiction this time around and it could be the heart of a new trilogy with Jack Sparrow and his crew of misfits. Some of the brainstorming going around involves some Jules Verne type of scenarios involving some pretty big flying machines, a man who wants to rule more than just the ocean, a encounter with the most famous and dangerous pirate of all, a race to get to a lost world and Jack and his crew going to where no pirate has gone before (No, its not space but Disney had made animated movie about this place before with Michel J Fox voicing one of the characters)."
The place stated is Atlantis, given that's the only Disney movie involving someplace at sea that had a character voiced by Michael J. Fox (as Milo).

Other info I've found strewn about the web is that Elizabeth and Will won't be in the movie (which I find hard to believe given the after-the-credits easter egg in POTC3) and it'll be just about Jack and the crew. Johnny Depp is confirmed to return as Jack and Geoffrey Rush is rumored to be back as Barbossa.

I'm curious about the whole famous pirate thing.. at first I thought it would be Blackbeard but wasn't Captain Teague unofficially supposed to be him?

Kat Five Knives 09-22-2009 10:45 AM

OMG - can u tell me where the Easter Eggs are?? I never even thought to look for them on the video.
Kat

Lisa 09-22-2009 01:09 PM

It's at the end of At World's End after the credits... there's no way they can just obliterate Will and Elizabeth after that lol

Benjamin Dreadgull 09-22-2009 03:11 PM

Knowing what a Fan I am one of friends sent this to me from some gossip website. Is it true , no idea , not posting it as fact just as what it is, gossip.

Though the movie is still in its pre-production stages, there could be some trouble ahead for getting the next Pirates of The Caribbean movie off the ground.

And that trouble's name is Johnny Depp.

Though he surprised a packed house at the Disney D23 expo last week in full Captain Jack Sparrow attire to promote the next film, the sudden departure of Disney chairman **** Cook has the actor dismayed about the continuation of the project. This past weekend, he opened up to the LA Times about the move, saying that there is "a fissure, a crack in my enthusiasm at the moment."

**** Cook was the reason Johnny had signed up for the Pirates projects from the beginning, and with him gone, and with new suits in place and the script only provisionally complete, Johnny's commitment to Pirates may falter out of loyalty to his friend.

No Johnny, no Jack, no movie.

Captin Spencer 09-22-2009 10:35 PM

agreed Ben YOU NEED TO HAVE JOHNNY and JACK (same person) to have a good pirates movie and i am a HUGE PIRATES FAN!
-Spencer

ukebec 09-23-2009 12:04 AM

Auditions have begun for POTC4.

My guess is that since Johnny is a man of his word he will go forward with his appearance in POTC4; I can't believe they would have begun auditions if they weren't 100% certain that Johnny was still on board for the project.

As for Will and Elisabeth, Kiera Knightley has stated more than once that she has no desire to appear in any more POTC films. *shrugs* No telling if she'll stick to that or not.

Juliana Maria 09-23-2009 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukebec (Post 167708)
Auditions have begun for POTC4.

Auditions?? Sign me up! Who knows, I may just be able to act side by side with Mr. Cotton's Parrot!! A true dream of mine... :D Where did you here they are holding auditions?

ukebec 09-24-2009 02:05 AM

I'm sorry Pirategirl09 - I'm not privvy to where the auditions are being held. I'm not "in the know". My guess would be the west coast.

But here's news of Geoffrey Rush's participation in POTC4 courtesy of Mim!E at JohnnyDeppReads.com, via this website http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2009/09/23...-in-the-spring:

Before news broke that Johnny Depp is considerably less psyched to step back into Jack Sparrow's boots for a fourth "Pirates of the Caribbean" following the exodus of Disney studio chief **** Cook, MTV News had a chance to chat with franchise co-star Geoffrey Rush about the developing project.

The Australian actor said he's definitely set to reprise his role as nefarious Captain Barbossa, and has been told to keep his schedule open for a possible start to filming next spring.

Said Rush to Josh Horowitz: "They're waiting for the screenplay writers to put together something that's beyond the trilogy, take it off into a new direction so that it's fresh and hopefully really interesting for an audience, that they're not going to just sausage-machine out something else, which wouldn't be so good."

Of course, it remains to be seen how, if at all, Cook's departure will affect "Pirates." Can what Depp called "a fissure, a crack" in his passion for the Jerry Bruckheimer-produced film be healed by the spring? All speculation for now.

For his part, Rush was firmly committed to the franchise as of early last week. And, to be honest, he didn't know much about how everything was coming together. Even the newly announced title—"Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides"—caught Rush by surprise.

"No, no one tells me anything!" Rush complained. "Jerry Bruckheimer—get your act together! Call me!"

Juliana Maria 09-25-2009 07:23 PM

So I googled auditions for POTC4 (may just consider trying it out.. You never know right?) Anwhoo... Included in the information is a quick overview of the supposed 'story'. Now I just looked over this real quick so I don't know 1. If what I found is the official audition information or 2. If this story line is even correct. But I figured I'd share it anyways:


EDIT: Oops, just looked it over and it says your not allowed to copy any information from the site so I can't include it. Does that mean I can't share the link too though?

But from what it's saying it looks more like a blast from the past type film? Not sure I like the idea if its true :/

Midhav 09-26-2009 04:36 PM

ok pirates, ye should know theres no story left for will&elizabeth, though i believe that liz can make a cameo.

The Skirata Clan 10-10-2009 03:41 AM

Bad news folks, since Richard Cook was dismissed there has been problems.

Entertainment Weekly Issue 1068, October-6-09, published this piece of news..

A longtime Disney chief leaves. What does it mean for the future of the studio — and for Pirates of the Caribbean 4?
Shock waves are still coursing through Hollywood a week after Walt Disney Co. studio chief **** Cook unceremoniously departed after 38 years of service. (He began his career in 1971 as a monorail operator at Disneyland.) Little reason was given as to why Disney's CEO, Robert Iger, chose to drop Cook, but it's clear from Iger's previous comments during earnings calls that he was not satisfied with underperforming films this past year, like G-FORCE and Bedtime Stories. ''We've had a rough year,'' said Iger. ''It's not the marketplace. It's our slate.'' Iger's recent actions also suggest that the CEO has no desire to continue business as usual. He swiped DreamWorks out from under Universal back in February, and just last month he surprised the town by purchasing Marvel Studios for $4 billion. ''Sooner or later, you're the traditionalist, you're the 59-year-old guy saying no to doing things differently,'' says one insider of Cook's ousting. ''You tell your boss no too many times, and it's a problem.''

Questions remain as to why the dismissal was handled so coarsely — Cook casually stepped into his boss' office Sept. 15 only to leave with his walking papers — especially considering his excellent relationships with filmmakers like Robert Zemeckis, Steven Spielberg, and Jerry Bruckheimer. Also uncertain is the status of Disney's much-anticipated Pirates of the Caribbean 4. Both the film's producer, Bruckheimer, and its star, Johnny Depp, have made it clear how disappointed they are over Cook's departure. (Depp told the L.A. Times, ''There's a fissure, a crack in my enthusiasm,'' for returning to the role of Jack Sparrow.) Few believe that means Bruckheimer and Depp won't participate in the project. ''It's posturing now. If the script's decent and the money's there, they'll re-sign,'' says one source. Still, with all the changes at Disney, and more sure to come, Pirates 4 may happen with the Mouse House looking like a completely different animal.
— Nicole Sperling

Lisa 10-10-2009 04:33 AM

Well, I'm a Johnny fan hardcore so it's not like I'm an Orlando fangirl or anything but I'm still hung up on how this can happen (possible spoiler)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEyCrbY675E

and then not have any sort of follow-up on it lol.. even a quick cameo would be sufficient.

Cpt. Charlotte Doyle 11-02-2009 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pirategirl09 (Post 167709)
Auditions?? Sign me up! Who knows, I may just be able to act side by side with Mr. Cotton's Parrot!! A true dream of mine... :D Where did you here they are holding auditions?


Same here PG09! i'd be content to be a random extra! that would be a fantastic experience AND quite an addition to an actor's resume... just sad that Jack Davenport is apparently not coming back from the dead :(

Kraken Guard 11-02-2009 03:49 PM

What's a Pirates movie without Davy Jones now? If it weren't for Davy Jones, Jack Sparrow wouldn't have gotten the Black Pearl now would he?:pirate2wn0:

Would have been cool if it was a prequel, but apparently no..

Atleast have Jolly Roger in the movie, it might get more pirates for the game! No Villain, no story. They already killed off Davy Jones who's story seemed far from over and they killed off Beckett, who's story also seemed like it wasn't over yet ("What mark did he leave on you?" Yeah Beckett! What mark did Jack leave on you?)

But they're probably going to be spoil sports and include no Jolly Roger, and they're obviously not going for a prequel. Another Pirates movie seems to bode ill for me, whether it's because i wasn't to thrilled about the third movie i dont know. Im leaving my rant at that.:zu04e1:

Juliana Maria 11-02-2009 03:59 PM

Well on the Audition site, the movie is sooo different. It’s like a flashback!! I personally, don't like it at all. Jack goes with this man (puppeteer) and his daughter and their ship is captured by pirates, which is when he becomes a pirate. Then they somehow travel to Atlantis and such. I mean, if he becomes a pirate then it has to be a flashback right? If this is the way they are going with it, I’m not too thrilled. I am really looking forward to a fourth movie, but if that’s the story, I say stop at the third in that case.

Cpt. Charlotte Doyle 11-02-2009 07:21 PM

you arent curious as to the backstory of any of the other three? i think a prequel is a great chance to meet our two wanted captains and get a better insight to their characters!

the only thing i fear, is another Indiana Jones and the crystal skull travesty! that was definately one that should have stopped at three. i dont want pirates to suffer the same fate.

(by the way, i refuze to acknowledge the aforementioned movies existance)

The Skirata Clan 11-02-2009 07:48 PM

Keep in mind that POTC 4 might get cancelled.

Midhav 11-05-2009 10:55 AM

:largeskull:okay heres what i have to say.
On the note of prequels... there are already prequels based on Jack Sparrow and his adventures battling off Captain Torrents, Hernando Cortez, Davy Jones, Madame Minuit, mermaid kingdoms, dinosaurs, sabretooths, Aztecs, etc. In that he actually hates pirates. I only read half the series, i think he changes his mind on pirates when Teague comes in "Sins of a Father", so i dont think that the pupeteer-pirate-atlantis thing is any close to being a good idea..... Another set of prequels is when he's an adult and a pirate lord, battling the Shadow Lord with the help of the Brethren court, so there is a time difference between the two series....... The first series should definitely be made a movie series....
And what Babidi said is somewhat wrong - the story of Davy Jones is complete, and if a movie were to be made about him, it should be only 3d animated like what happened to Clone Wars, as a film of DJ will not be getting much at the box office... Jolly Roger would also not be put in a movie though i feel he should.
Lastly, Pirates 4 is a sequel, and it is very much true that Johnny Depp and Brukheimer cant give up on a movie who's title has been made already....

Captin Spencer 12-26-2009 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eliza Creststeel (Post 165713)
So much for the Fountain of Youth rumors!

its about the fountain of youth probobly

MacIronhawk 12-26-2009 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by The Skirata Clan (Post 175453)
Keep in mind that POTC 4 might get cancelled.

One of the biggest factors for its canceling would be the fact that some of the actors for the main characters may not return.

The director wants to keep Will and Elizabeth but the two actors don't want to do another movie. The director isn't too happy about that, but it's not like he's going to bribe them to stay in the parts.

Hopefully there will be a forth movie, though. That's just my opinion, but a forth movie opens up more story quest possibilities for the content in game.

swordshot 12-26-2009 04:52 AM

yay! another couple hours of ny life i waste :D still like the monies though

The Skirata Clan 12-26-2009 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MacIronhawk (Post 188518)
One of the biggest factors for its canceling would be the fact that some of the actors for the main characters may not return.

The director wants to keep Will and Elizabeth but the two actors don't want to do another movie. The director isn't too happy about that, but it's not like he's going to bribe them to stay in the parts.

Hopefully there will be a forth movie, though. That's just my opinion, but a forth movie opens up more story quest possibilities for the content in game.

The biggest factor still remains in the firing of Richard Cook. Both Depp and Bruckheimer are unsure to continue with it. If either one of them pulls out of the project then POTC 4 will never exist.

swordshot 12-26-2009 05:32 AM

so no barbossa??Oh and i bet ya ths=at there will be new navy people LOL ALWAYS NEW PPL FOR NAVY

lostmymarbles 12-26-2009 07:50 AM

lol

New Navy people... the equivalent of the red shirted people in Star Trek. Expendable.

Midhav 12-26-2009 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacIronhawk (Post 188518)
One of the biggest factors for its canceling would be the fact that some of the actors for the main characters may not return.

The director wants to keep Will and Elizabeth but the two actors don't want to do another movie. The director isn't too happy about that, but it's not like he's going to bribe them to stay in the parts.

Hopefully there will be a forth movie, though. That's just my opinion, but a forth movie opens up more story quest possibilities for the content in game.

Wait u've got it all wrong Mac. Pirates 4 has a different director and this director does not 'want' elizabeth and will to come back. Gore Verbinski was the director of the first three and has showed no interest in coming back, and a new director has been hired only now. Now where did you get the idea that anyone from the crew that made the film EVER wanted Will and Elizabeth to come back? Nobody even said they were to come back. Their respective actors just said that they aren't interested in coming into the series and also acknowledged the one true fact that the story of elizabeth and william were over. You saw the ending right? One day in ten years, and after the credits william comes back after ten years to meet her when he had soulfully done his job for the given time without even leaving for once? So if william were to come, what will they do? make a story of how he spent his time in the locker? NO! Their story is over, and i do believe that it was meant to be over even for Dead Man's Chest!
Please all of you, get over these two and note that the story for them is absolutely over! the scriptwriters wont make a new story about the both of them and make the audience absolutely disinterested in pirates. Even a prequel about Elizabeth and william would be box officer flop.
The new story is about the adventures of jack and barbossa, while elizabeth retires to bring up her child, and william does his duty of ten years.
PERIOD!

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Skirata Clan (Post 188529)
The biggest factor still remains in the firing of Richard Cook. Both Depp and Bruckheimer are unsure to continue with it. If either one of them pulls out of the project then POTC 4 will never exist.

read the latest news, Disney has announced to pay johnny depp 55 million $ to play his role as Jack Sparrow.

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Originally Posted by i rock6336 :D (Post 188551)
so no barbossa??Oh and i bet ya ths=at there will be new navy people LOL ALWAYS NEW PPL FOR NAVY

No Barbossa is coming into this story. It hasn't been confirmed whether the new movie is prequel or not, but most likely not, so Barbossa will be coming.
Well new ppl for the navy is a good idea....
What about that guy Lieut. Groves who was with Beckett during the attack on the Endeavour by the Black Pearl and Flying Dutchman? They didn't show that he died.
But maybe they can make a new navy head played by Tom Cruise!
Nice idea eh?

The Skirata Clan 12-26-2009 08:19 PM

Depp has said that the money was no issue. He said that if Bruckheimer wasn't part of it he won't be part of it, and if the story was no good enough for him he won't be a part of it.

Chris 12-26-2009 11:45 PM

So gore isnt directing. Now I have worries about the movie :( its going to be a spin off movie. Especially without barbossa, will, elizabeth, her father, jones. It seems like only Jack will be brought over and maybe some smaller characters.

Midhav 12-27-2009 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 188654)
So gore isnt directing. Now I have worries about the movie :( its going to be a spin off movie. Especially without barbossa, will, elizabeth, her father, jones. It seems like only Jack will be brought over and maybe some smaller characters.

Just to let you know, Geoffrey Rush is going to play Hector Barbossa, though Disney hasn't announced his role in it.
He will definitely be coming since he come for the third movie. The movie will have to do without Will and Elizabeth. Elizabeth retired, Will will come only after ten years.
On the other hand the Governor is dead, but nobody said the crew of the Black Pearl aint coming. If Barbossa is coming they are coming. Cotton, Marty, Pintel, Ragetti, rumors of even Tai Huang ( Sao Feng's right hand man, also rumored to have got Elizabeth's piece of eight from her ), new additions like Mulroy and Murtogg ( those two navy guys ), and probably even Joshambee Gibbs.
Davy Jones is dead and we have to live with that - LOL see the irony, live and dead.

Aaron McEagle 12-27-2009 04:59 AM

Well the movie doesnt go well will the game be fine???

(The movie makes so much money for this game)

Bad movie = less new pirates = no money for disney:xundecided:

SamanthaLockkidd 01-15-2010 05:14 AM

January 6th on Twitter Disney announced that Pirates Of The Caribbean 4:On Stranger Tides will be released in theaters on May 20, 2011

Midhav 01-16-2010 03:32 AM

the movie might be what many people consider Indiana Jones 4 to be. Suddenly from Religion to Sci-Fi. POTC 4 will supposedly be about sci-fi. Since I liked Indy 4, I'd probably having the same feelings for POTC 4. What i really want to know is who the new villain is ( Jolly is good, but can't come since he's more like Davy and Hector Barbossa, and nobody wants another one of them ) and who are the key members of the cast.

Jolly Roger 01-29-2010 02:34 AM

( keeps fingers crossed that i jolly roger will be the villian.)

Midhav 05-04-2010 03:14 PM

* Johnny Depp ... Captain Jack Sparrow[3]
* Geoffrey Rush ... Captain Hector Barbossa
* Ian McShane ... Edward Teach (Blackbeard)
Blackbeard is the main villain
* Penélope Cruz ... Blackbeard's daughter
* Stephen Graham... Scram
* Astrid Bergès-Frisbey... Syrena
* Sam Claflin... Philip
* Mick Jagger...(TBA) a pirate elder
* Keith Richards...Captain Teague

The Evil Will Mcbain 05-04-2010 04:31 PM

Yay! Barbossa! No Gibbs though? :(

The Skirata Clan 05-05-2010 12:09 AM

And where is the source of this info?

ex8404 05-05-2010 03:45 AM

Disney has announced that Pirates 4 will be directed by Rob Marshall, the director of such action packed blockbusters as "Chicago", "Memoirs of a Geisha" and "Nine" (the musical flop, not the animated sock puppet one).

They went on to state that the budget for Pirates 4 has been slashed by a full 33% necessitating a location change from the Caribbean and Los Angeles to Hawaii and London. It's a tax thing...Shooting days have been cut from 145 to 90. Special effect shots will be cut down from 2000 to around 1400.

Bruckheimer is still the producer. According to the Los Angeles Times,"As preproduction gets underway in Hawaii, Marshall and Bruckheimer are going through the script line by line looking for more places to trim costs."

So...when was the last time a sequel was better because of a reduced budget, a different director, an all-but-different cast, not-quite-authentic locations and fewer visual effects?

It's a coin toss really. Pirates 1 and 2 were pretty good. 3? Not great but not terrible. 4? Who knows?

MacIronhawk 05-05-2010 03:58 AM

Psycho was made in only a few months, and their budget wasn't too great. Now look at the movie today, it's a classic.

If this director can make use of the money and locations, it can be good. You never know.

I honestly can't wait to see blackbeard in the movie. Now that will be good.

Midhav 05-05-2010 04:02 AM

TSC, the source is from the Pirates of the Caribbean Encyclopedia. They got the info over the last few months from various news articles....
I still would keep my hopes for this new movie, especially with Ian McShane as Blackbeard. I'm not sure about Penelope though. Now, one thing the film needs is a next BIG cast member.
I really hope the budget slash will not affect the movie... and I really don't thin the new locations will.
And, a new cast isn't that a bad thing for the film, except with all those Liz-Will fans cryin that they should come back for a fourth move (They're stories are way past done!!!!)
I have also heard that the EITC and Royal Navy are going to make an appearence in the film. Not sure how, but it could be a mention lie Jack saying "And we took on the fiercest of the fierce, Cutler Beckett, yet nothing compared to Blackbeard"
Fair Winds
Midhav

Kat Five Knives 05-05-2010 12:28 PM

It's mind boggling to me why they would be slashing the budget. The previous 3 movies continue to make money through replays on television ( the whole series was recently on tv), pay per view, licensing ( party cups, toys, posters, etc). The new movie has a ready made audience and you know the first weekend is going to be big.

If they are having money problems, then they need to take a look at their CFO because someone is seriously mismanaging cash.

Just my thoughts.. maybe I'm naive.

Dog Firestack 05-05-2010 12:33 PM

They need will and elizabeth, without them the movie seems so... incomplete. they made the movie exciting and action packed, I don't know how the others will handle it.

Juliana Maria 05-05-2010 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dog Firestack (Post 211239)
They need will and elizabeth, without them the movie seems so... incomplete. they made the movie exciting and action packed, I don't know how the others will handle it.

I disagree. I found that by the third movie I was done with finding them exciting.. In fact, they kind of annoyed me by that point. I love you, no you betrayed me, but now I love you again...

I find Jack and Barbossa and their witty conflicts much more entertaining. I think I would rather see some new characters and some new roles rather than have them bring back Will and Elizabeth. Plus Elizabeth has a kid now. They sort of killed any further need of a story for them with that alone. I'm satisfied with that being the end of their story. Will could probably come back, but IMO, it makes no difference whether he does or not.

Some new characters might be kind of refreshing!

Eliza Creststeel 05-05-2010 03:40 PM

Storywise, Will and Elizabeth's story has finished. They could contrive a way for them to show - but the third already set us up for this one.

And bringing Blackbeard in should be fun - Ian McShane is the bomb as an actor.

I'm curious if Pintell and Ragetti, Cotton or Marty will also show.

The Skirata Clan 05-06-2010 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ex8404 (Post 211168)
Disney has announced that Pirates 4 will be directed by Rob Marshall, the director of such action packed blockbusters as "Chicago", "Memoirs of a Geisha" and "Nine" (the musical flop, not the animated sock puppet one).

Maybe POTC 4 will be a musical. It does have Mick Jagger and Keith Richards. Even Johnny Depp plays guitar and sings.

Pirate J 06-12-2010 08:29 PM

I have never seen any of the films but know so much about it lol

James Bladefury 06-12-2010 09:36 PM

Will Turner should be in Potc 4 because he took the role of the new Davy Jones. I agree with you guys, Elizabeth should be taken out, permanently in the coming movie, but Will has a sense of action, almost all the battles are linked to him.

The Skirata Clan 06-12-2010 09:48 PM

He should JB, but I think that he declined participation or wasn't asked to. Either way Orlando Bloom is not going to be in POTC 4. Same with Knightley.

Midhav 06-13-2010 01:38 PM

I disagree with you both. Elizabeth and Will's stories are DONE. If there is a Will, there is an Elizabeth always. And did you see the ending of the 3rd movie? William comes to meet his beloved after 10 years. Terry and Ted (writers of PotC) confirmed that he spent exactly 10 years of servitude (not a day lost) in the Locker. So, Calypso freed him from the Curse and he is to spend the rest of life with Elizabeth. Either way Liz and Will's stories are done, because it will be the same tangle (You betrayed me.... Now I love you... Loop). This movie is about Jack Sparrow, Barbossa and whole new characters for the new trilogy (if this movie does well). Elizabeth is the only character who can at least make a cameo.

The Skirata Clan 06-13-2010 03:54 PM

That is what I said. Those characters are done. Because the actors were either not included or they declined. Remember, a writer can break or make you.

As far as Will's curse that one is forever mate. 10 years at sea for one day ashore.

The Evil Will Mcbain 06-13-2010 05:44 PM

All I want is Gibbs. I Don't care about Will or Elizabeth.

JackGoldStack 06-13-2010 05:58 PM

it wont be cool i think cuz Megan fox is gonna be in and she acts very weird and rude for little kids and btw Gibbs wont be in film cuz i went Google and i searched of potc 4 and i fund a list and there was no Gibbs or Marty cotton etc... theirs black bard and cabin boy Megan fox :S and johnny of course

Nate Swordwalker 06-13-2010 11:41 PM

Just looked up Megan Fox in the next movie. She has a possible chance of being in the next movie. She is said to be the mermaid who uses her persuasion powers to trick Jack.

The Skirata Clan 06-13-2010 11:55 PM

Megan Fox? Really? I guess its because of her great talent and friendly ways that they have decided to include her. She is not even a mediocre actress. Why ruin a good thing by brining a rotten apple?

Nate Swordwalker 06-14-2010 02:00 AM

Exactly. In Jonah Hex all she wears are some risque outfits and shoots guns. Not a good thing to bring this to Pirates. Way to ruin the movie, eh?

Moonwalk 07-16-2010 06:09 AM

Hopefully Depp will have even a larger role in this movie, it just won't be the same for me without the Kraken :)

Rita 07-16-2010 04:43 PM

From what I hear this movie is mainly about Jack.
Considering he's the only of the original characters left as far as I can tell.

Midhav 07-17-2010 05:34 PM

Of original characters there's Jack, Barbossa, Gibbs, Theodore Groves apart from others. There are some videos of filming. Apparently Gibbs is working with the EITC/Groves.

Eliza Creststeel 07-17-2010 06:41 PM

The RUMORS about them not wanting Will or Elizabeth back has NOTHING to do with the director.

The focus was on smaller budget and thereby redirecting to story to stay with Jack and Barbossa - CONSIDERING that they set that up in POTC3. There was no last minute creative decision to let Knightly and Bloom go.

Blackbeard will make a great foil for Jack and there is supposed to be another pirate in opposition to them.

Midhav 07-18-2010 04:42 AM

Actually the story might focus on Jack, Barbossa and Angelica. It's Angelica who will provide a "great foil for Jack". Blackbeard is the main villain. I wonder if Barbossa might have a villainous role too. There's a video of filming where Barbossa, Groves and Gibbs are talking of something over some ship ruins on an island. I wonder how they got off the Pearl. Geoffrey Rush looks completely different and he is wearing a Blue boot for one of his legs (CGI).

Midhav 07-24-2010 05:17 PM

Here is the teaser for the movie. I think it was made before filming had begun on June 14th. The teaser which will use film scenes will come only on December 17th
The Comic-con teaser:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qh5L...layer_embedded

James Bladefury 07-24-2010 05:37 PM

Megan Fox in Pirates? Awesome! She is very tallented when it comes to movies, and I hope she has a good role in potc 4.

Midhav 07-24-2010 05:49 PM

She is not coming. She was replaced as a mermaid by Australian supermodel Gemma Ward.
Once again here is the Comic-Con Teaser for PotC4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qh5L...layer_embedded
The actual teaser will come on Dec17.

muffin pirate 07-24-2010 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Evil Will Mcbain (Post 222731)
All I want is Gibbs. I Don't care about Will or Elizabeth.

Same here!!!

ShadowDiamond 07-26-2010 02:22 AM

Can't wait!

Big Bad Wolf 07-30-2010 06:15 PM

I came across this on the web:

Quote:

Disney just released this detailed plot synopsis for the upcoming film “Pirates of the Caribbean: On The Stranger Tides” aka Pirates of the Carribbean 4 coming to theaters May 20, 2011. “Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides” by director Rob Marshall (Memoirs of a Geisha, Chicago) stars Johnny Depp (Sin City 3, Public Enemies), Ian McShane (Kung Fu Panda, Deadwood), Penelope Cruz and Geoffrey Rush.

Synopsis: “Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides” captures the fun, adventure and humor that ignited the hit franchise –this time in Disney Digital 3D(TM). In this action-packed tale of truth, betrayal, youth and demise, Captain Jack Sparrow crosses paths with a woman from his past (Penelope Cruz), and he’s not sure if it’s love–or if she’s a ruthless con artist who’s using him to find the fabled Fountain ofYouth. When she forces him aboard the Queen Anne’s Revenge, the ship of the formidable pirate Blackbeard (Ian McShane), Jack finds himself on an unexpected adventure in which he doesn’t know who to fear more: Blackbeard or the woman from his past.

Rush reprises his role as the vengeful Captain Hector Barbossa, and Kevin R. McNally returns as Captain Jack’s longtime comrade Joshamee Gibbs. Claflin stars as a stalwart missionary, while Berges-Frisbey is transformed into a mysterious mermaid.

The film is slated to open May 20, 2011.

I guess no megan fox! lol.

The Skirata Clan 07-30-2010 06:39 PM

I am glad that there is no Megan Fox in this. POTC doesn't the success of Jonah Hex to rub off.

Blaze Skullshield 07-30-2010 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eliza Creststeel (Post 165713)
So much for the Fountain of Youth rumors!

The movie is based on a book called On Stranger Tides. It's based on a story about 2 pirates battle it out and try to get to the fountain first. The 2 pirates are Jack Shands and Blackbeard, Wikipedia suspects Barbossa will take the place of Blackbeard and Jack Sparrow will take the place of Jack Shands.

Blaze Skullshield 07-30-2010 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Bad Wolf (Post 239265)
I came across this on the web:



I guess no megan fox! lol.

Megan Fox is without doubt the worse actor I have seen, she should stay in modelling.

The Evil Will Mcbain 07-30-2010 07:52 PM

Yay! Gibbs!


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