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toanuju22 07-31-2009 05:11 PM

If you could have any new set of ships in POTCO what would they
 
If you could have any new set of ships in POTCO what would they be?

First rate Ship Of The Line 70-120 guns Including broadsides 70 cargo room,400,000
hp;about 400,000 gold ,special ability supreme firepower

East Indiaman 32-68 guns Including broadsides and 65 cargo room,
with 320,00hp;cost 320,000 gold ,special ability high speed and acceleration

Vasa 34-74 guns Including broadsides and around 50 cargo room,350,000hp;
cost 350,000 gold ,special ability bow cannons and quick cannon reloading

Redesigned Frigate 28-52 guns Including broadsides and 40 cargo room ,300,000hp;
cost 300,000 gold ,special ability-high speed and acceleration

Redesigned Galleon 30-48 guns Including broadsides and 60 cargo room,
260,000hp ;cost 310,000 gold ,special ability rapid reloading guns

Flute 24-42 guns Including broadsides and 45 cargo room,
200,000hp ;cost 280,000 gold ,special ability fire resistant outer hull

Schooner 20-48 guns Including broadsides and 40 cargo room,
180,000hp ;cost 250,000 gold ,special ability low repair costs and high speed.

Xebec 22-46 guns Including boardsides and 32 cargo room,
160,000hp ;cost 200,000 gold special ability high speed and acceleration

Brig 16-32 guns Including broadsides around 25 cargo room,
120,000hp ;cost 160,000 gold ,special ability- excellent maneuverability

Brigantine 12-28 guns Including broadsides around 22 cargo room,
80,000hp ;cost 70,000 gold ,special ability high acceleration

Galley 14-26 guns Including broadsides around 18 cargo room,
50,000hp ;cost 32,000 gold ,special ability excellent maneuverability and acceleration.

Redesigned Sloop 10-24 guns Including broadsides 14 cargo room,
30,000hp ;cost 15,000 gold ,special ability high speed and cannon reloading

Cutter 8-16 guns Including broadsides 10 cargo room,
15,000hp ;cost 12,000 ,special ability high speed and good turning
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if i could have any it would be

East Indiaman
Redesigned Frigate
Xebec
Redesigned Sloop
Brig


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Dr. Zeppers 07-31-2009 06:39 PM

I think ships of these capacities and fire power although they sound real neat are way too much for the game.

none of the above

Add: We could use a few new ships, but Im hoping for the ship customization instead! :)

Sven Osymthe 07-31-2009 06:57 PM

I agree with Zep, I would prefer ship customization rather than new ships.

Bartholomew Foulsteel 07-31-2009 07:03 PM

Well, I would like both. A standard set of ships and then the ability to customize.

Me personally, I would prefer to have a Schooner. I'm just a fore-and-aft kind of guy, I guess!

The Skirata Clan 07-31-2009 07:46 PM

If we are just wishing here. Then I would just vote for all of those options, more ships owned, and ship customization.

Nelly Darkpaine 07-31-2009 08:06 PM

I'll take a motorboat. Forget authenticity. I want to get to the other islands faster. =D

Seriously - I agree - ship customization! Id take something as simple as SHIP NAMING! =P

toanuju22 07-31-2009 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Zeppers (Post 155892)
I think ships of these capacities and fire power although they sound real neat are way too much for the game.

none of the above

Add: We could use a few new ships, but Im hoping for the ship customization instead! :)

well if we could get more gold from cargo it would be possible from some of these magnificent ships
like from a chest of diamonds 10k gold


Quote:

Originally Posted by Nelly Darkpaine (Post 155926)
I'll take a motorboat. Forget authenticity. I want to get to the other islands faster. =D

Seriously - I agree - ship customization! Id take something as simple as SHIP NAMING! =P

well another good option would be the ability to type a ship name

Dr. Zeppers 07-31-2009 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toanuju22 (Post 155940)
well if we could get more gold from cargo it would be possible from some of these magnificent ships
like from a chest of diamonds 10k gold




well another good option would be the ability to type a ship name


The ship naming idea would be awesome, but just more stuff for their moderators go have to go through. But would like to have it for sure.

Having more ship types to choose from would be very cool as well.

But ships of such major capacities?
We already pull in more gold than we can spend in the game!!!
My pirates sit at 65k gold max all the time.
Bigger hauls, larger plunders... not seen as entirely all that useful as of yet.
Not even sure why they increased the capacities of the ships we have!

Firepower?
You can sink the hardest ship in the game with a light sloop if you know what your doing.
Takes a long time, but can be done.
Where would the purpose of more powerful ships help?


If the game undergoes some EXTREMELY major content updates increasing the size of the 'world' 5 or 6 times, provide us with more inventory abilities, higher level areas (3-4 times higher than now) of the sea etc. Then I think 'new' ships with higher capacities and firepowers such as these would be useful. Different designs im all for, but without major upgrades the game isnt ready for more powerful, higher capacity ships.

Let us sail a Black Pearl type of ship Potco! ;)

The Skirata Clan 07-31-2009 09:43 PM

the bigger hauls would be great if we could plunder clothing and ammo too.

toanuju22 07-31-2009 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Zeppers (Post 155948)
The ship naming idea would be awesome, but just more stuff for their moderators go have to go through. But would like to have it for sure.

Having more ship types to choose from would be very cool as well.

But ships of such major capacities?
We already pull in more gold than we can spend in the game!!!
My pirates sit at 65k gold max all the time.
Bigger hauls, larger plunders... not seen as entirely all that useful as of yet.
Not even sure why they increased the capacities of the ships we have!

Firepower?
You can sink the hardest ship in the game with a light sloop if you know what your doing.
Takes a long time, but can be done.
Where would the purpose of more powerful ships help?


If the game undergoes some EXTREMELY major content updates increasing the size of the 'world' 5 or 6 times, provide us with more inventory abilities, higher level areas (3-4 times higher than now) of the sea etc. Then I think 'new' ships with higher capacities and firepowers such as these would be useful. Different designs im all for, but without major upgrades the game isnt ready for more powerful, higher capacity ships.

Let us sail a Black Pearl type of ship Potco! ;)


a east indiaman is the same type of ship that the black pearl is,

as from ship customization these would also apply to be customizable

that's the reason i have a 32-84 cannons specification
also the sizes i mentioned would be the largest said ship would come in

as for what POTCO would have to do to get these ships to work in the game,

larger ocean , more damaging guns
npc ships like these, well like a navy ship of the line

and raised gold caps to around 500,000 gold

Wildcat Storm 08-01-2009 04:34 AM

I agree ship customization and being able to type our ship names would be great!
I mean we can already type our pirate and guild name, how hard could adding another option to type our ship names be?

Charles Darkwolf 08-01-2009 01:30 PM

Well, ship customization would be great! I'd love to have a few more broadsides and a paint job on the ship, maybe even different colored sails.

BUT, as for a new ship in the game. I would like to see a either a Spanish Treasure Galleon or a Spanish Royal Galleon, I tend to use these ships the most in the game, Sid Meier's Pirates. They start out slow but gets better as it picks up speed. The cargo hold held a lot, and has massive broadsides. Plus they look better than the Galleons POTCO has now.

wmah 08-01-2009 01:58 PM

I want a black pearl look alike ship. It doesn't have to be the same color, it only needs to be the same size and look. After all those BB we should at least be able to use the pearl but we can't have a hundred thousands black pearls sailing around so when we do finish the pearl quest why not give us a ship that is the same size and look.

Maximvs 08-01-2009 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by wmah (Post 156084)
I want a black pearl look alike ship. It doesn't have to be the same color, it only needs to be the same size and look. After all those BB we should at least be able to use the pearl but we can't have a hundred thousands black pearls sailing around so when we do finish the pearl quest why not give us a ship that is the same size and look.

Though I like the idea if getting a 'pearl' ship - you hit the point right on mentioning that everyone would eventually have one (then it wouldn't be special anymore)

Not sure how to get around that... maybe an almost impossible quest (which players may complain about being unfair, so I can't see it happening) or a special award / code (outstanind account for one year or something)... :)

If I could customize my ship - I think that would be the bomb-diggity! :D

Dan_OB 08-01-2009 03:09 PM

Something I've always wanted is instead of having lite, reg and war classes of the 3 ship types like they have now have 3 ship types: 1. Fast ships (sloop), 2. Cargo ships (Gallon) and Fighter ships (Frigate). The way it would work is 3 Historical ships in each of these classes.

For example in the Cargo class you might have:
1. Fleut (replacing lite gallon)
2. Gallon (replacing reg Gallon)
3. Indiaman (Replacing War Gallon)

Fighter Class:
!. Brigantine
2. Frigate
3. Man o War or Ship of the line

Fast Ships
1. Sloop
2. Brig Sloop
3 Schooner.

I'm guessing a lot here and probably don't have many of the types right (or the periods), but you get the idea.

I agree with Zep we don't need stronger ships. But having more types of ships with some historical accuracy would be nice.

toanuju22 08-01-2009 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wmah (Post 156084)
I want a black pearl look alike ship. It doesn't have to be the same color, it only needs to be the same size and look. After all those BB we should at least be able to use the pearl but we can't have a hundred thousands black pearls sailing around so when we do finish the pearl quest why not give us a ship that is the same size and look.


i mentioned a east indiaman, they are the type of ship the black pearl is

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan_OB (Post 156102)
Something I've always wanted is instead of having lite, reg and war classes of the 3 ship types like they have now have 3 ship types: 1. Fast ships (sloop), 2. Cargo ships (Gallon) and Fighter ships (Frigate). The way it would work is 3 Historical ships in each of these classes.

For example in the Cargo class you might have:
1. Fleut (replacing lite gallon)
2. Gallon (replacing reg Gallon)
3. Indiaman (Replacing War Gallon)

Fighter Class:
!. Brigantine
2. Frigate
3. Man o War or Ship of the line

Fast Ships
1. Sloop
2. Brig Sloop
3 Schooner.

I'm guessing a lot here and probably don't have many of the types right (or the periods), but you get the idea.

I agree with Zep we don't need stronger ships. But having more types of ships with some historical accuracy would be nice.

here is how the order could go

war ships:

East Indiaman
Ship Of The Line
Vasa
Frigate

Cargo Ships :
Fulte
Galleon
East Indiaman
Galley
Schooner

high speed sailing ships

East Indiaman ( Black pearl is the fastest ship in the Caribbean and East Indiamans were as fast as frigates so they go in here as well)
Xebec
Brigantine
Brig
Cutter
Frigate ( these ships were very fast)
Sloop
Schooner

Mostly the idea back in the 17s-18s was to get cargo were it needed to go as fast as it could in scene war ships were actually slow except for the Frigate and East indiaman

Dr. Zeppers 08-01-2009 06:29 PM

Personally, 'historically' accurate is not a concern of mine.
Nor do I see it as a factor for developers.

It is a fantasy/movie world after all, full of voodoo magic, etc.

This is one of the reasons I find requests for realism, or historical accuracy humorous, its not a realistic world.

Would be nice to have 9 different ship types to choose from though instead of light, regular, and war classes of the same 3.

Stephen O'Malley 08-01-2009 08:10 PM

I put down other because I would like to see an Asian Sloop, much like we see Jack's crew sail in the last movie. It would have 10 broadsides, 8 cannons, 12 cargo room, and it would be the fastest of all the ships.

toanuju22 08-01-2009 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truffleboy2894 (Post 156165)
I put down other because I would like to see an Asian Sloop, much like we see Jack's crew sail in the last movie. It would have 10 broadsides, 8 cannons, 12 cargo room, and it would be the fastest of all the ships.

well asian junk sloop really

and nice choice

Dan_OB 08-01-2009 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toanuju22 (Post 156140)
i mentioned a east indiaman, they are the type of ship the black pearl is

here is how the order could go

....

Mostly the idea back in the 17s-18s was to get cargo were it needed to go as fast as it could in scene war ships were actually slow except for the Frigate and East indiaman


In ship design there are trade offs. If you want a ship that hauls a lot of cargo you are going to sacrifice speed, like the gallon. If you want speed you are going to sacrifice cargo capacity like the sloops. If you want a fighting ship you are going to want armor and cannons, which will slow the ship down and limit cargo space. So while a frigate maybe fast for a war ship and faster then most cargo ships it is not going to be as fast as a sloop or schooner.

Yes, many ship types served multi-purposes but what I was going for was to have 3 different ship designs in each class that best fit into these catagories:

Fast ships: Ships designed for speed and manuverability. less armor and cargo space like the sloops in the game. Frigates maybe fast for warships but not in the same league as sloops, schooners and such

War ships: Ships designed to fight. lots of armor, lots of guns, like the frigate in the game. Some clarification here; A ship of the line is not a ship design but rather describes the biggest most powerful ships available. The real life man o' war was a ship of the line. Frigates where smaller. Vasa is the name of a particular ship, not a class of ships.

Cargo ships: Like the galleon in the game able to carry large amounts of cargo but slow, less maneuverable and limited in fire power. The East Indiaman was primarily used by The East India Trading company to haul cargo. It's use as a warship was limited and there is no way it would be ranked above a MOW as a warship, so it fits here. And it maybe fast compared to other cargo ships and many war ships but not compared to sloops, schooners, cutters and the like. The Flute or Fluyt, on average was smaller then the galleon. The Indiaman was larger then both.

Smooth Sailing!

Jack Sunskull 08-03-2009 07:39 PM

It would be nice to see a new ship or two, customization would great as well. There is no point right now to add more cargo space if most people are maxed on gold, unless we see a nice increase in gold soon.

Davy Keelhawk 08-03-2009 08:13 PM

i would like a barque, it was able to outmaneuver a schooner and was used as a cargo ship.
other than that, ship of the line

toanuju22 08-03-2009 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan_OB (Post 156183)
In ship design there are trade offs. If you want a ship that hauls a lot of cargo you are going to sacrifice speed, like the gallon. If you want speed you are going to sacrifice cargo capacity like the sloops. If you want a fighting ship you are going to want armor and cannons, which will slow the ship down and limit cargo space. So while a frigate maybe fast for a war ship and faster then most cargo ships it is not going to be as fast as a sloop or schooner.

Yes, many ship types served multi-purposes but what I was going for was to have 3 different ship designs in each class that best fit into these catagories:

Fast ships: Ships designed for speed and manuverability. less armor and cargo space like the sloops in the game. Frigates maybe fast for warships but not in the same league as sloops, schooners and such

War ships: Ships designed to fight. lots of armor, lots of guns, like the frigate in the game. Some clarification here; A ship of the line is not a ship design but rather describes the biggest most powerful ships available. The real life man o' war was a ship of the line. Frigates where smaller. Vasa is the name of a particular ship, not a class of ships.

Cargo ships: Like the galleon in the game able to carry large amounts of cargo but slow, less maneuverable and limited in fire power. The East Indiaman was primarily used by The East India Trading company to haul cargo. It's use as a warship was limited and there is no way it would be ranked above a MOW as a warship, so it fits here. And it maybe fast compared to other cargo ships and many war ships but not compared to sloops, schooners, cutters and the like. The Flute or Fluyt, on average was smaller then the galleon. The Indiaman was larger then both.

Smooth Sailing!


ok i read up and mostly i was right however in my last post
i thought by fast ships you meant ships the were considered fast for their size

so in a re order of my last post


War Ships;
Ship Of The Line/Man-o-War
Vasa ( i check online and found it was a galleon of the line )
Frigate

Cargo Ships;
Galleon
Flute ( i also checked on this ship , even though it is smaller than a galleon ,
it could hold more cargo and sail quicker than a galleon
East Indiaman ( checking online as well for this and found that
yes East Indiamen did hold very much cargo they were not at all slow when considering cargo ships and had a speed that of only a few knots slower than a Frigate while some East Indiamen actuall held more cannons than Friagtes

Fast Ships
Sloop
Brig
Xebec ( the common Barbary Korsair ship these were incredibly fast ,maneuverable and held a good amount of cargo, however when the British navy tried a experiment with a Xebec in the Atlantic the results were very surprising,
so the British navy built about 16 Xebecs and put them into service )


and in my last post i, i revised the ending of it



Mostly the idea back in the 17s-18s was to get cargo were it needed to go as fast as it could and as inexpensively as possible , in scene war ships ( Such as a Man-o-War ) were much slower than a East Indiaman or flute, though there were some war ships like the Frigate that were faster but only by a few knots when compared with a East Indiaman.

toanuju22 08-12-2009 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davy Keelhawk (Post 156560)
i would like a barque, it was able to outmaneuver a schooner and was used as a cargo ship.
other than that, ship of the line

Well i didn't put a Braque in the list, cause when i checked it on wiki i couldn't find out how many cannons it had so if you know a page where it says " a certain number of cannons on a barque" ill put the ship on the list.

prince5654 08-13-2009 11:53 PM

Hey speaking of ships, I thought Galleons were supposed to look like this: http://www.oceantreasures.org/docs/galleon2.jpg not this: http://images2.*****.nocookie.net/pi...ar_Galleon.jpg

toanuju22 08-21-2009 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prince5654 (Post 159298)
Hey speaking of ships, I thought Galleons were supposed to look like this: http://www.oceantreasures.org/docs/galleon2.jpg not this: http://images2.*****.nocookie.net/pi...ar_Galleon.jpg

Isn't that the awful truth of POTCO , really the Galleons in the game look like
Man-o-Wars , and their just as slow as them too.
As well as Frigates look like Galleons , and real frigates have a hull similar to that of a sloops.

Captain Whale 09-03-2009 01:02 PM

I would like to see some new ship designs as well as have basic customization. Hull and sail colorization would go a long way to help differentiate our ships.
What I would really like to have is a flag! A customizable pirate flag either off the rear of the ship or at the top mast. The cutter and Schooner designs would be welcome and they differ greatly from what we have. It would also be nice to have a guild tag of some sort on the ships as well.

Captain Whale


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