Saying Goodbye to POTCO? Read on Friends...
 

There have been just as many "Goodbye POTCO" threads as there have been "Hey! I'm New" threads lately. Understandable with the lack of content, and the most recent "update".

I have a suggestion for those that are leaving. Let Disney Know! Don't just post a thread here wishing the forums and the game a farewell, tell the Big D why you're fed up and canceling!

As suggested by Zep Here, it certainly couldn't hurt to let your intentions of leaving hit Disney's desk as well.

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There are some great players going away. I think Disney needs to know from those of you that are going, why. You never know, it could make a difference.

I'm Officially afraid of looking in the new threads now... Could we protest in game... Like A day without Pirates? Would it matter? Maybe its a subtle way of killing the game? Haven't they done that before? I'm tired of reading about my mates leaving... It MUST stop!

This could bring us one step further in the right direction, or we could remain where we stand. But I don't care anymore. Everyday, I keep losing more friends because of Disney's inability to truely update the game. This needs to stop, now.

If we do tell Disney why we would be leaving, at least if we do leave the game, we'll be leaving a small crack in Disney's wall of ignorance. But if we are able to flood them with these reasons why we're leaving (BTW, I'm not in any way telling you you have to leave) that crack will eventually become a hole.

But remember. We've tried mass-emailing Disney in the past, and as you can see, thats gotten us almost nowhere. We need to do something that will grab Disney's attention. Like Skirata said, we could protest in game. At least we'll be showing Disney we mean what we mean. Its about time we show Disney that you can't step on a snake, because it will just come back and bite you on the heel.

I will try but I think alot of us have already tried sending them ideas, comments, and complaints and they still have done nothing.

Actually Chris, that's not true. Think about it. There were plenty of people that wrote and complained about people overcoming their bans in-game by creating new accounts and linking them to the banned account. This was a DIRECT REACTION to our input.

What i personally think is that along the lines of the boycott nobody at all play pirates for a day. or nobody at all pay for a whole month
and we could also just shoot them up with comments during the whole period.

This might work, good idea. The servers are always quite except for the 1st couple of A servers. I don't know how many pirates it takes to make a server ideal,quite, or full. I wish I knew, that would be interesting to know.

We are all as pirates between a rock and a hard place thats for sure... we're surrounded by the "D Navy and EITC Scum", we're losing pirates like there's no tomorrow, things look bleak for sure...

But...

This is when true pirates are supposed to shine through at their best! This is when pirates dig deep within their souls and they grab that last ounce of determination and rise to the challenge! We may be down - be we are not out! :D

Our efforts have been bits and pieces - but it is time for all of us to take the last stand and fight as one! Don't let what was and can still be a great game go down with the ship!

1) As Sarah has mentioned above, if your cancelling your subscription or leaving the game - don't just say gooodbye here - first go to their Grob Blog Link For The Latest Changes and fill in your thoughts! Then once you've done that - go right to their Contact Us Pages and send in your thoughts there as well! Every pirate here should be doing it! We've all done it in bits and pieces before... but its time for ALL to put the pressure on now!

2) Its time everyone to use the Report a Bug issues in game and make our stand in the game that we have had enough! They tried to hide it, but every player in game when you first log in should push their F7 Key on the keyboard - then click the Report a problem! EVERYTIME! Don't start doing a single thing until you report at least one issue today! They cannot ignore 1000's of daily report problems if every player out theri took 30 seconds when they first log in and submitted an issue - even if you submit the same on everyday! Tell them that you want PvP and SvS changes! Tell them you want cloaked ships fixed! Tell them something every day you log in!

3) It is time for Guilds to put aside their petty difference! The main cause for such problems is because of lack of content, as before everything ran out I remember many guilds were as one! It is time to act as one again! Make friends with others in other guilds - so you will always have friends in game which you can contact or play with. Just because they are not in your guild - doesn't me we are not all pirates!

It is in these dark times we stand together as one - as if we are going down we will go down as one and not be picked off one-by-one, guild-by-guild...

Stand up! Be accounted!

BE A PIRATE! ARRG! :D

Have you pirates noticed that most of the busy servers are populated by Limited Access pirates? Maybe I am wrong, but I have seen this as of late. It also seems to me that Unlimited Access players tend to be on test recently...not all but many. Don't really know how long you all have been playing POTCO, but I have been on for a year. I love the game, and don't tire of it. It provides a welcome relief from the stress of real life for me. I have tried other pirate online sites, but POTCO is my home. Don't know if my rant is on topic enough...just expressing what I have seen & feel. Pirate on, mates!!!

Agreed, Disney has just gone too far.

I actually like this Idea. It could work, or it can fail, either way we can and Should try.

this is a great idea we should try

Boycott the game? Now what good would that do? No one is going to know how you feel about the issues unles you tell them. Log on, report, complain, offer some solutions. You are the customer, tell them you want what you're paying for.

Spoke with customer service and they are aware of the effect this has on families that have pirates playing together , they are working on a solution to that, they are more then willing to move pirates around as well to accommodate people with pirates on the same account.

At the moment looks to me like the main source of the linking issue is people that use the loophole to get on suspend accounts. As it was stated earlier in the thread. The new content is coming, I know so is Christmas but it will get here,Disney is no dummy whatever it is they are doing, they know exactly what is going on. Just this pirates opinion.

Honestly this is set up as more of a social game then a gamers game, always has been, there are enough dedicated fans that its going to be here for a long while, the gamers will move on, the fans, they are not going anywhere.

Aye, im also sick of Disney's inability to keep Members in game i've lost countless amounts of POTCO buddies thanks to this. Savvy, Andrea, this has to stop im sick and tierd of this nonsense.

But Max this is our time to shine. Our time to show what Pirates mean business all for one and one for all, PIRATES!

It must be a Disney thing> Ask the admins/mods or any of we Pixie Piratez that run/use both POF & PHF. It is the same for Pixie Hollow my Pirate friends! We try very hard to use our Pixie Patience but promises are not always kept & "Soon" is a meaningless word. I just try to enjoy the games as is because it is better than having non. I do write our Never Council for PH when I have a problem, idea or gripe. Some times we get results after a lot of e-mails!!

If you read through my message again i said that during the whle period we would be emailing and complaining to disney

I like that idea shnoodell :P except we tried that with VMK and everyone sees where that ended up. But just give me a time and ill help, I want this game to survive and thrive more than anything I want to play again and be in an active guild and have fun and make memories in this game again its just disney.... maybe they should sell the POTCO rights to another company and have them work on it -_-.....

I doubt 'boycotting' will work since you have to stage it with well-in-advanced planning and even a large number players didn't play that day (and you'd want to schedule on a normally busy time) - the number of freebies who don't care would negate that.

Would anyone still be interested in at least staging some kind of protest the next time they do an RP session?

Vary the demands, but mostly 'fix the account issue' and 'get us some real updates'.

It would definitely get noticed by the GMs and other players who would be in attendance. Granted, such actions could get us suspended... but, is it worth it?

EC

We have to send this to an actually person, because if you send it to the technical problems and such without calling, you'll just get a machine that sends an E-Mail that was typed years ago. You best use the grog blog, I did myself a favor and entered mine about 30 times for just about all of the moderators to see. I know I don't play, but I don't think anybody should quit because of this stupid decision that Disney made.

A protest sounds good to me. It would be a good way to help get our opinions out.

Protesting isn't a good idea, according to almost all of my friends, the moderation department at Disney has been taking a stand against their own customers. Suspensions, warnings, and bannings are being handed out as we speak. Several of my friends have gotten one of those three for simply saying "they need to bring back linked accounts". All we can do is continue to bombard them with feedback.

I have been sending in tons of feedback emails and each time I get the same copy and paste message back.
I also have been sending in a ton of comments on the grog blog but of course, none of it is posted.
I know all the feedback does help but protesting could also help. I would not mind the ban if it would get their attention. It may not help at all but to me its a worth a try.

I'm still waiting on my response to Disney's response. As much as I would like to protest, I agree.. I don't think it's the best of ideas. Once I get a response to my other email, then I'll decide if it's worth it. But for now I'm just holding off...

EDIT: I take that back, I sort of just got one of my emails answered. And let's just say.... I'm loving Disney again!! :D LOL Just got that prize I won back in November for their Anniversary. And I have to admit, its pretty cool. This just made my day!!!!! :D:D:D Lol

After reading some of the posts, I think some of us are going a little overboard with protesting. If you protest the game by not playing that's one thing but not paying is a whole different story. You're not helping the game at all when you decide to stop paying for the game to protest.

I think too many people are complaining because they're bored. Why is it that I can wait a year and a half to two years before a huge update goes to toontown but my fellow POTCO players can't wait even a year at the least?

Too many of us are raising the expectations we expect from Disney. You can't expect them to come out with some grand update once a year can you? There are players in the game that have four mastered pirates while others only have one. Now look at that and tell me who will wait longer for the bigger update. Too many people in this game are hardcore players that not only want big updates each year but expect them. Protesting the game isn't going to help the developers at all. In fact, it will probably hurt the game!

Lets pretend half of the players in POTCO get together to protest by not paying for the game. What's going to happen when Disney stops making money off of the game? If they see a huge decrease in money being made they can cut the game if they want. POTCO isn't fun to Disney. It's supposed to be a money maker. What would you do if you were spending more money on a product for your business than making money from it? Like most business 'people', they'd probably say the heck with it and cut it so they can keep making money off of other things.

POTCO is just a product to Disney. If half the members stop paying for the game they can cut it if they want. Why should they pay money on something that's not making any money because their customers are too impatient?

Disney probably wasn't expecting a huge amount of players to begin with. It took toontown three years to have just three full servers and POTCO got three full servers in less than a year. If that gives us any idea of how many players are already on POTCO, then I'm not surprised a lot of players are already bored.

I'm sure if all the impatient players could have a one on one talk with someone from Disney, the Disney employee would ask you to wait. Don't waste away your life on a game by making four pirates and mastering them in less than a year or two. It is just a game afterall. If some of us are too OCD to limit ourselves then that's too bad. I mean dang. Protesting the game isn't going to do anything. Be patient. I've seen kid players that have been more patient than adult players in the game. I went out and bought myself a PS3 to keep me busy. I found myself playing Need for Speed games more than POTCO. Hey, it kept me busy for a while but now I'm back to online games.

It's not hard to limit yourself from a game. If you can't limit yourself from a game then how can you limit yourself for everything? I realize that adults(and retired) probably have more time on the computer than kids. Even if you have more time that doesn't mean you shouldn't limit yourself. Afterall, who wants to be found dead at a computer?

Mac, I agree that protesting is not the way to go. In fact I even feel silly typing the word.

As for the rest...I've been playing since day one, had a basic account for all of 45 minutes before I paid my year. Yes, I have four mastered Pirates, and four babes on account two (a paid one at that) but this didn't come from spending my life grinding in game. A couple hours three times a week, and your mastered. (sounds like a bow-flex commercial....)

Of COURSE people are complaining because they are bored! The content for someone starting out NOW is great, there is a lot to do. There has been NOTHING for pirates who have been in game more than a year however, and I cannot subscribe to the theory that it's lack of funds, D is a multi-billion dollar company. Channel some of that into POTCO already. I haven't raised expecations on Disney, they set their standars high already. They need to cough up the goods.

NOW, back to your regularly scheduled thread...

Mac, I agree with most of the things you said, but I must point out a few things that differentiate TT from POTC.

TT is a fully developed game that has players kept busy for years at a time. Like Sarah said, a few hours 3 times a weak, and you've mastered every aspect of the game. I had gotten my main pirate up to Level 40, all weapons lv. 22+, and all tasks (including bonus ones) completed in less than a month. In TT, it takes at least a month to max one of the four cog suits, and you still have several weeks going to golfing, fishing, and racing. Not to mention the fact that there's so much personalization throughout the game, and there's so much competition around you to motivate you to get through the game. I have never met a fully maxed toon that hadn't been spending at least 6 months on TT. On POTC, I have met people who have maxed their pirates in a week and a half. There is little gaming content to POTC, when you compare it to TT. This is why TT can take months at a time when coming out with new stuff; it keeps the players busy. Could you imagine players on TT like POTC in which half the paid gaming community has 3 fully maxed toons? If that was happening, TT would be having the exact same problems as POTC is having right now. So in end, I think it is an unfair comparison when comparing POTC and TT, and it still eludes why Disney is fully aware of the problems and lack of new content on POTC, and why they're not sending some of the designers from the TT department to the POTC development department.

Basically, my rant in a nutshell: TT keeps players busy! POTC is failing at that!

I'll have to disagree there. I play a little more than that and I don't even have one level 40 let alone one that's fully mastered. Possibly it's because I enjoy the social aspects of the game more than focusing on completing everything there is.

But POTCO can't be compared against TT. There has been quite a bit of time for Disney to release a lot of things to do on ToonTown. If you want to compare how long it took major new content to be released on ToonTown, they were on the same track that POTCO is on right now. It took Disney 20 months from the time TT went Live to release the 2nd Cog headquarters (Cashbot HQ), another 14 months after that to release Lawbot HQ, and 23 more months to release Bossbot HQ.

TownTown just celebrated its 6 year anniversary (on June 2nd, wow coincidences eh?). TT has had a lot of time to develop. Yes, there is a lot to do on TT, but it didn't start out with all of the boss battles and all of the mini-games & activities it has now. It built up to them. Sellbot HQ wasn't even released until 5 months after launch (sound familiar?). Overall, TT is much a more developed MMO, yes. Six years later, I would hope so.

Comparable or not, you can tell that Disney made Toon Town a more successful game, and they are actually advertising it a little bit. Pirates hasn't had a commercial ever since Ship PvP came out, and I honestly cannot see it getting anymore soon with these updates. Sure, new members who have just joined and think these new enemies are something else may think it's a big change, but they have no clue what truly happened. POTCO is pretty much Disney's new Toilet System, it flushes out all good players, and gets clogged up by the stinky and unwanted players. Whether they can realize they've made it what it is or not, it's their fault because they said the game was ours, and they take out the Family Factor, which was just about all there was in the game after 3 months.

I would be an example of this. One month of gameplay, only play on weekends, and I've mastered.



Are you forgetting that TT came out with many other things along the way? TT came out with fishing, more fish species, racing, golfing, estates, doodles, along with the 4 cog HQs, and lv. 7 gags. TT came out with new stuff every 3-9 months, but when TT came out with the Hqs, those kept players busy because of the cog suits system. People wanted to be at the top due to so much competition which made them want to max their suits. POTC doesn't have a system in which you dress up as a guard to recapture the pearl, and you move up through marine, sergeant, etc. If it did, players would be MUCH less bored because they want to be ahead of the rest.

I'm hoping so too, and I'm not the only player to think that.

I think you're forgetting that both TT and POTCO players have to wait the same amount of time for huge updates. Players from both TT and POTCO had quit because they're impatient.

On toontown I've maxed one of my toons. I have so many people ask me how I did it. All I did is play a few hours a day like Sarah said. But what happens when the imaptient people who have 4 mastered pirates(Not saying if you have four pirates you're impatient) quit? Then you see less and less higher level people. It's like a cycle. The impatient people quit and the patient people are still there years later with a very high level character.

TT and POTCO can be compared in the sense that both games have impatient players who are demanding content. They can also be compared to how long they take for huge updates. It took 23 months for bossbot HQ to be released and there weren't too many complaints on TTC. In fact, there were more people talking about ideas for bossbot HQ than complaining about it not being out already.

If you can't wait for new content, stop paying for the game. Don't waste your money on a game where content isn't coming out fast enough for you. You'll be saving money and once you start paying again, you still get your stats. I don't see why people keep paying for the game if they're bored with it. Go out and buy a console and a few games to keep you busy. It's working fine with me and I'm not bored. (Although I did make a new pirate today because I'd like to be caught up with some of the people who have multiple mastered pirates.)


I think POTCOs biggest problem is that the game is too easy! In toontown you can't beat the game without help! I'd like to see more quests where you have to do mini-boss-battles with friends. I don't want to go in toontown's direction but why not have boss battles where once we defeated them enough our HP goes up and we get extra attacks, even weapons? POTCO has a lot of content already, but it's not used the same way toontown uses it. For toontown you have to do boss battles over and over again. Sellbot HQ alone will keep you more busy than the first POTCO story quest.

Yes, toontown has more content. The way the developers use the content is what matters. There may be more boss battles in toontown than in POTCO but... POTCO doesn't force you to do the boss battle over and over again to get farther in the game.

Ok, enough of me going on and on about comparing TT and POTCO. You can compare them though. The ages of the games are just numbers. The content is another thing, but it's how the developers make use of the content that matters. *repetitive*

*Facepalm*

I have already stated that there is no system in place with this game. Its do your tasks, level up, and thats it. I'm not going to repeat myself.

*Facepalm*

I never said there needed to be a system. I for one, though, would like to see them make use of the content they already have.

If you think it would help, I could shoot them a moon from the top of Sleeping Beauty's Castle.


Shucks, I'd be happy to do that even it it didn't help.

-ekb-

I never said there had to be one, there just isn't.

I won't pay for the game any longer due to the Linked accounts change. I can no longer play with the person I've been playing with for over a year due to our two pirates being on the same account. (We pay Unlimited Access on both accounts - just can't play together anymore)

My protest is not playing, and not paying. Disney really messed up this time, and hurt its family players the most.

Nelly,

Your situation is slightly different than most. You actually have the two paying accounts, but normally play 2 pirates on the same account, because that is where they were created, right? (Just clarifying.)

If that is true, you can contact Disney and have them separate the pirates into the two accounts. It takes a little time and effort on your part, and a little work on Disney's side, but it can be done.
Since they are both full access accounts, there will be no reduction in screen size, skills and abilities, or ships or anything else.

Call customer support and explain the situation. They can fix it for you.

Basil,

Thanks for the heads up on the moving pirates thing! That was my major concern was that all four of our pirates were under one account and so, my sons and I couldn't play together.

If I could split them two-two, then at least two of them or one of them and I could play at the same time. Need to tell more folks that!

Anytime!! Please understand that I myself have never moved any pirates from account to account. I am only relaying info that has been passed on to me. Best of luck and I hope it goes as smoothly as I have been told.

The real problem is for those who use only one Full Access account, and use a basic account and the tabs to access second or even third pirates on the full access. The idea of moving pirates to a basic account does them no good.

I don't think the Big D cares. All they want is money. The thing about me is that the game just gets so boring after a while.

You can only move pirates to a unlimited account, which I think is wrong. They should make it where it can go to basic accounts too.

Basil,

I may consider uping our 2nd to an Unlmited account, but I will hold off and see if anything else 'new' is coming first.

EC

Oh my goodness, thank you so much, you have no clue how long I have been looking for somebody with the sense to notice that. Knowing that, you can use it against people, and then, you can be a true pirates, great going.

Just adding to what Basil said a while ago about moving pirates. There was a thread made months ago about that, http://www.piratesonlineforums.com/f...ead.php?t=8943

EC and others,

I just got unlimited on m one basic account from the giveaway! I think maybe this isn't a pure coincidence that they are giving away 10,000 free one month subscriptions.

This afternoon, I will be contacting D to move 2 pirates from my 'real' unlimited account, to my 'free' unlimited account. (Now that my basic is temporarily unlimited, they should be willing to move the pirates.)

After that, and the free month is over, then I guess I'll have to decide if I should keep paying for the second unlimited account or not.

No, "protesting" isn't the way to go. There is no way any kind of "protest" could ever be big enough and significant enough to phase Disney. But not paying for the game (for whatever reason) isn't "protesting." Without being able to play my two pirates at once, I don't even want to play the game... so I stopped paying. That isn't protesting, it's common sense. Would you buy a new car just to let it sit indefinitely in your garage? Doubt it. Would you pay for a game you aren't going to play? I would certainly hope not. Those of us that stopped paying didn't do so just so we could stick our tongues out at Disney and say "that's what you get!", we stopped paying because the game is no longer worth our money, it's no longer benefiting us.

I also disagree 10,000% that players who stop paying hurt the game. If we bombard Disney with negative feedback about their updates (or lack thereof) but continue to pay and play as usual, why should they take us seriously? If they can upset HUGE numbers of players but still make their money, why pay attention to customer feedback? And as Sarah said, Disney has PLENTY of money, I'm sure the POTCO staff could care less if they have a few less paid subscriptions.

So what do you do to let Disney know that their game has gone down the toilet and has upset many of their customers? Whatever you feel you need to. For me, I sent them plenty of emails and grog blog/news comments. But words without backing actions are pointless. If we complain but still continue to send in our money, WE are the fools.

Does Disney care that Jason Davy isn't paying for their game anymore? Heck no. Did they pay the least bit of attention to ANY of my emails? Do they care about my opinion? Of course not. But I did what I had to do. I stopped paying for their game that they have clearly ruined for so many people in so many ways. I'm not making any difference at all and I realize that. The game is up to Disney - and the day they truly put their customers first is the day I'll give them my money again.

Jason, I'm guessing the day you start paying for the game again might be the second story quest. I know I'll stop paying for the game if my subcription ends before any 'good' content comes out.

Also, nice post Jason. What I feel I need to do is keep paying for the game and keep playing. We all think different thoughts. If we can realize that then I think posting what we "should" do is a waste of time. While some members will protest by not paying others will just keep on playing. The only real thing we can do is to wait for new content. Nothing we do is going to bring in the content faster. How can complaining to the devs bring in anything? If anything it makes them stop what they're doing to see what we're complaining about.

I don't know about you guys but a lot of our(my) posts seem repetitive. What can we do to get their attention? Maybe walking down into burbank and grabbing the devs by their shirts and shaking them up a bit will get their attention.

absolutly, max. and, yeah, guilds should put aside their fights, and feuds between players should stop. but it ends there. look at it, we boycott it, we be pirates, oh, look, a dilema here. if we boycott, we aint pirates no more. my solution? go up to HQ, live. no more auto emails, you should speak with them face to face. BUT, heres the other side of the issue. ECONOMY, guys, ECONOMY. tough times, and Disney has gotta cut back. the game is losing player, Ha! the designers are losing jobs!!! its not lazyness, its RL issues!!!

I wish they would but unfortunately people get so caught up in hating someone they cannot see through that hate that they have even if they are wrong.

Agreed! Until you get to going to Disney....

This is one of those things that you really don't know what its like until you're going through it. I was playing POTCO for well over a year and really, nothing has changed since that time. After mastering my first pirate within a few months, there isn't anything else left to do. A few things were added and a few minor improvements were made but really, its things that can be done in a month and things that lose their shine in a matter of weeks.

I still see bugs, glitches and exploits that are in the game that were around a year and a half ago. If they were there then and they are still there now even after so many bug reports sent in, even after so many e-mails sent in.... there is only so much we can do as players in this game. If Disney doesn't want to fix it, WHAT CAN WE DO?

Back when the new Port Royal came out, I came to find out that I had a chat glitch, along with another member on here, where if someone wasn't on our friends list we couldn't see what they were saying. All that was seen was "arrr," "yarrr," or "garrr." I sent in a countless number of bug reports, and a countless number of e-mails, and they had NEVER fixed it. The only workaround that I found for it was linked accounts. They ruined my fun I was having on the game and they made it seem like it was my fault that I had this new chat bug.

Going to Disney may help somewhat but it won't bring back those of us that quit. Compared to ALL of the other MMO's out there POTCO is lacking content BIG TIME. POTCO really was a great game, and it had potential but the devs are wasting their time focusing on new players coming to the game instead of taking the time to keep their long time players busy. The update that removed the linked accounts ruined the game for many and was the final straw.

I think it was Mr. Barty Foul himself that said this is what we asked for. Umm no it wasn't. We asked for a fix to get these little brats removed from the game for good. We did NOT ask for Disney to take away access from hundreds of families. Linked accounts were useful in getting one family all online at one time with ONE account. Disney is doing the best that they can to get more money from their players. A true sign that even that billion dollar company may be suffering in this economy. I still stand by my decision to quit the game and I'm sure I did many players a favor in doing so too ;)

Speaking from experience, guild fueds can't just be dropped. All good things must come to an end and its a good thing that certain fights come about. You learn that your friends aren't really your friends when you need them. Guilds have been against guilds since I started playing a year ago. If it was there then it will be there now and it will be worse now. Guilds aren't what they used to be and these guildmasters (not ALL of them, just a select few ;)) aren't the greatest either. If that's from a lack of content in the game then that's a downright shame.

Actions speak louder than words. It's easy to say, "Alright gang lets all stand together and fight em," but its not the same to actually do it.

If quitting is the only way to get a point across to Disney, then so be it. Even if they come out with a fix their long time players that they lost will not come back. They've done the best they can, in their eyes, well then I'm sure the rest of us that quit agree that we did the best that we can waiting when we shouldn't have to be. When I cancelled my account I sent in an e-mail. Its nearly two weeks later and I still have not heard a reply. If they don't care about a chat bug that they didn't bother fixing, and they didn't care about another player of many that was quitting, why should I or any of you for that matter care about them and their game?

Theres so many kids on Abassa Id LOVE to take down a few notches with some carefully worded verbal cut downs, particularly when they gang up and pick on one person or another... I did it once with a girl who was notorious for picking on other girls - she ran off, and then tried to continually friend me. I declined every time.

But, I dont want a ban, and I keep remembering that 90% of them are kids, likely who are picked on themselves or have seriously low self esteem. I mean, someone with a normal attitude doesn't need to pick on others to make themselves feel good.

This game SHOULD and NEEDS to be a safe place for players. This means reporting people who pick on others. Reporting bad language, reporting bullies.

But then, my faith in Disneys interest in it being a family game is shaken. I think their concern is the all mighty dollar. We players come AFTER profit.

I agree Nelly. They really do need a safe environment for their game if its such a family game. There are hackerrs on there and true griefers that need to be taken care of.... But if they value my $10 a month over the quality of their game, and the opinions of the players... then they do not deserve my $10.

They won't bother listening to their players even though they encourage a reply from us, then I won't bother being a player on POTCO anymore. Yeah it'd be better to send them all of this but, I've been shunned away by Disney one too many times. If they come on here, they can read it for themselves.

The big blow for me was the linked accounts. They just dont care that people can't play together anymore.

Its all about the money for them, they really don't care about the players.

With the whole economic crisis and such, who's surprised?

I am... I thought they cared a bit more about players. They forget who PAYS for memberships. Family players, thats who.

After investing in this game for over a year, Im somewhat hoping it tanks. The linked accounts was the last straw for me.

well, i don't think a big company like Disney is suffering from the economy. They only care about money either way.

Yes, but their CEOs are only making $10,000,000,000 a month, as opposed to $15,000,000,000 a month before the economic slide :laughks2:.

I do understand families that play together being upset about the linked account situation but D has said they are working on a solution to the problem. Banning only a single pirate on an account as suggested wouldnt really work as alot of the players D is suspending Im sure arent families that share an account but individuals who would just use another pirate on that account and by the time the forth got suspended the first would be back. I am sure alot of it is also friends who play together using linked accounts with one paid instead of having seperate accounts, the reason for sooo many protect your account info warnings from Disney. Im sure they could look at the number of unlimited accounts being online and the number of unlimited pirates online at any given time and repeatedly saw their linked account system being abused what was to stop me and a friend across town or the world from spliting the cost each month and sharing each with 2 pirates Disney saw this as an abuse of linked accounts with no clear fix. Dont put all the blame on Disney they are still a company that exists to make money alot of the blame goes to those people who used linked accounts to work around bans and those who used linked accounts to play for free or half the rate the rest of us pay with thier "friends" not family!

They also said new content was on the horizon at the one year mark. It's been about 8 months now, and I see nothing new. They said a lot of stuff was coming. Disney lies. But, we all have a choice, keep paying and be silent, keep paying and be verbal, stop paying and be verbal, stop paying, or stop paying and quit. I can't, cause I won'y abandon my guild after the work we put in, but it gets harder each day to log on, especially when I see the people who aren't quitting.

Disney has a long history of making it for the minority (not racist, read on). Mission Space is a classic example. They have warning signs posted every 5 feet, but people are idiots, and refuse to listen. Then, when their family member is dead when they get off, they sue. Instead of persuing legal action, Disney settles, bribing the families to keep quiet, and changing the ride, ruining it for the rest of us.

With linked accounts, this is the same way. It was hurting disney, and helping a few unscroupulous people. So, what did they do? Classis Disney, and change the rules because of a few.

Well, i'll end my rant now. I may turn this into a blog, and add onto it. But, for those of you who quit the game, I wish you only the best, but by quitting, what do we get. We let Disney win...

I believe Disney said the next story chapter and cap raises were coming out this summer not the first day of summer and as far as D is concerned the towns and other improvements are new content just not the content you were looking for. Disney is not trying to kill the game or purposely telling us lies but i am sure as they are working on the new story quests they have run into issues that may be behind some of the recent changes we are all complaining about as well as trying to make little easy for them to do improvements along the way. Disney is not stupid they know releasing a new story quest and raising caps will bring back alot of paid accounts as well as bring in alot of new players, and we know they love money, so dont you think if it was ready they would have released it, every month its not out is costing them money. I bet the bosses at D are hounding the devs to finish it just as much as pirates are ranting about how evil Disney is. Look at console games how long between good versions of games do you normally have to wait 2-3 years and most good MMOs arent releasing new expansions every other month. Be patient and if you cant find some part about the present POTCO that you like playing then try something else and in 3-4 months come back and complain about how boring it is to grind weapons getting from lvl 50 to 55.

I know what you mean when you say that, but in all honesty, this is not the way to go. I don't know how many times this has been said before but instead of making those innocent players suffer, the wiser option would have been to ban ALL accounts, main and linked, when somebody is banned, and in addition, disable the ability to link a new account. The only bright side to this is that all those little brats who MADE this happen are just going to have to enjoy their vacation from POTCO, or make a new account.

This is not what we wanted to happen. Certainly Disney could have thought of another way to take care of trouble makers, and let the others enjoy their game. It takes one idiot to ruin everything for the rest of us. And for Disney, a billion dollar company, that is unacceptable.



Hmm... I wonder why they don't announce their courses of action. If this issue is so important to them, so important that they're already working on a solution, why not let the public know? In all honesty, I doubt that they're doing what you were told. Then again, Disney is this wonderful, family-oriented company that focuses on what would be best for the families playing. Oh wait... if that was true, GM Trench wouldn't have said this: In other words, they don't care, they'll do anything to avoid the wave of complaints, they'll do anything to get more green in their pockets.
I don't know who you were talking to, what they were thinking, or if you really did speak to someone, but something just does not add up...

I disagree with the bold text. If they are truly aware of what's happening, then they would 1) Do what they say in their lovely form letters, "We are working on a solution that will directly address your concerns.", 2) Wouldn't have said, "Please know before we implemented the change we collected data on exactly how many people would be affected by it, in reality this change affects an extremely small number of our players." Because we all know that this IS NOT an "extremely small number", 3) Take our suggestions more seriously, and 4) ALREADY HAVE NEW CONTENT RELEASED!
There's no need to make this sound better than what it really is, we're all aware of what's going on.
On second thought, Ben, you're absolutely correct, they are aware of what's going on. The only thing going on for them right now is money, is it not? "Whatever it is they are doing" can be defined as finding new ways to scam paying customers. :D


Max, I admire your determination, and enthusiasm, but I strongly disagree.
Well, as stated earlier, actions speak louder than words. I'm just one of those people who cannot be satisfied unless I see some action. This is easier said than done.
Ever since I started playing on Nov. 3rd of 2007, I've seen glitches, hacks, Macro usage, you name it. Things that have been reported thousands of times, things that I'm sure even DISNEY considers a serious matter to an extent, THINGS THAT HAVE YET TO BE FIXED.
For example, the ever so wonderful invincibility glitches. Sure after one is fixed it's not a problem, and everybody enjoys a nice, non-invincible game play, or only for a day. There's always one little brat out there who just CANNOT level fairly, and just HAS to find some way to revive invincibility, because some people are just sooooo desparate. In this case, the player is not 100% at fault, but rather, the blame is shared 50/50. Disney and player. Player for finding the glitch, but DISNEY for not handling these matters like they should be handled. If Disney really did care about the enjoyment of players, and care about maintaining a fair playing environment, then they would pay attention to HOW these glitches are found, and not WHEN these glitches are fixed. For every glitch fixed and revived, there is always a way that is SIMILAR to how it was created BEFORE. For invincibility it usually involves jail trips/being defeated.

Which brings me to my next point... there are many glitches, exploits, hacks, etc. that have yet to be fixed. (Glitches that Disney said were fixed but were not) Glitches that Disney has FAILED to address, FAILED to fix COMPLETELY, FAILED to care about. This pretty much covers it... Disney is a waste of time when it comes to reporting issues. They simply don't care. No matter how many reports are sent in, they'll just consider it an "extremely small number", DESPITE the complaints and cancellations.
Let's face it, they just DO NOT want to be bothered.


Disagreed. Telling guilds to put aside their differences is like telling Disney to address OUR concerns. Not gonna happen. There are just too many Guildmasters out there, and too many childish Officers/Co-GM's that are.... griefing too much... It is a shame though, that guilds cannot settle their differences, but in this game, guild fueds are just a fact of life. The bottom line is that you know who's with you, and who's against you. I speak from experience when I say that it's better to know who's who than to act on undecided feelings and one-sided accusations, because in reality, you can't trust everybody. ;) If the main cause of this is lack of content, then how can you possibily expect guilds to cooperate if the guilds have been enemies?


Oh I hope you're not serious. The only people who have a chance of that are the people who live close to the HQ, and.... that's not everyone here. Even if someone was to make a complaint, it wouldn't do any good. Why? What they do online reflects on their amount of consideration and the courses of action that they are willing to take. If this was RL, they would 1) Ignore you and 2) Continue as if nothing happened. I highly doubt that people are willing to travel 2,000 miles across the country to grab their attention.

We all know that the economy even effects Disney, a billion dollar company. But here's what you're missing: Is it right to neglect the customers' needs just to earn an extra buck? Nope. If Disney actually did their job, if they addressed our concerns, if they gave us we wanted, people wouldn't be leaving by the hundreds.
Apparently, Disney does not care for the PAYING customer, but rather, the new players that don't even pay. The only reason why they would choose the new players over the people who give them money, is so they could get more.
Heh, look at what happens when Disney gets greedy. People are either leaving or are planning on "protesting", which I do not support at all.


People, do you HONESTLY expect Disney to listen, or even CARE if you "protest and boycott"? It is beyond obvious that all they care about is getting more people to pay so they will get more money. In most MMORPG's, protesting is NOT necessary. Want to know why? Other companies actually address the concerns of their players, thus, grabbing the attention and interest of thousands of new players. POTCO is a new game, and it was RELEASED TOO EARLY. If the devs actually cared for the game itself and the impact on the players, they would have taken their time. They would have made sure that bugs/glitches are taken care of, there's more to do in the game, before and after hitting 40, and there are justified procedures ready in case those kids get out of hand and require a time out...
For those of you who think quitting/cancelling your subscription is going to get their attention.... I agree. The less money they get, the more they'll care, and the more they'll do to improve the game. (Read the italicized phrase in a sarcastic voice). If more people leave, Disney just learns their lesson the hard way. =)

It's time to face reality, this game has failed ultimately. The devs have had more than enough time to improve the game, but the GM events, free unlimited access offers, and simplified game play updates are VERY, VERY, repetitive.
I do not regret leaving the game. Disney does not deserve my 10$ a month if they are not willing to turn this game from a scam to something fun. If they value your money over THEIR game, why deal with it?

I disagree :) In the game - as in life - if eveyone just learned to accept other people's difference and stop provoking and irratating those around them - there would be no need for wars or agressions...

I may not be able to do anything about the world - but POTCO isn't that big (worldly - yes - big, no). So it really is up to the individual if they want to stop.

The list of large guilds isn't that large of a list. Players can and should get along in this game - only those who intentionally go poking at others will be continued problems.

I didn't say I like the idea of fueding guilds, I only said that there's nothing that can be done if guilds are hopeless enemies, and you're better off associating with people you trust.
It is a shame that people cannot get along, but not all friendships can be healed.

Well this thread took a left turn at Albuquerque. I like the discussion though. Back to my original point, I still think it couldn't hurt to send this info to Disney. Let them know why you're upset and saying bye.

I agree with sarah. You are doing half of what she suggested. Yeah you are telling how u feel, but u have to tell how you feel AND send it to Disney. Don't be afraid, Disney wont bite you, lol.

Disney's to lazy to go around Biting people

What everyone here is failing to realize is that the REASON the linked accounts got removed WAS DUE TO ALL THE GRIEFERS WHO WERE GETTING OUT OF THEIR VACATIONS. If you guys want to be mad at some one, blame the girefers that ruined this for all of you with linked accounts. Stop blaming Disney for taking some what of a control over all the griefers. If a person made enough calls and sent in enough emails to Disney, they eventually get the point and do some thing about it.

As Bart said back on page 1 of this lovely thread, those that complained to Disney about all the girefing, Disney DID just that. They took away the griefers ablity to get on their main pirates that were on the vacationed account. Therefore, that pirate cannt log into that pirate to grief others.

Yes, it put alot of families in a tight spot with their pirates and their kids pirates all on the same account. But as Basil also stated, you can call Disney and have them moved to another account that was linked to that main account, THEREFORE families can still play together.

All this talk of wanting to protest and boycott the game will accomplish nothing. There are too many peeps who do enjoy the social aspect of the game. Many peeps come on to chat with friends and guildmates. Yes, new content would be extremely nice, but it will arrive in game when it gets here.

For those who have grown tired, then just go then. Stop crying about it and just do it. Leave the game to those who do enjoy it and have fun. Sry if this post offends any one, but that is how this pirate feels and just her meer opinion.

Look Li, no matter how optimistic you are, it all comes down to Disney. They already lost a few hundred members due to their greed. If this were a matter of security, like its been said a dozen times before they would have done something else like ban all the linked accounts, or have a limit on how many linked accounts there can be, etc. As I said before, I've been ignored a few times to many when I went to Disney telling them this. To be honest, you're right in a way. Both the "griefers" AND Disney are at fault. But because of them, and because of Disney's greed we are paying. It was not right to do what they did and they should fix it. But again as I said before, Disney is looking out for their pocket not what their players want.

Yes I tried the transferring pirates thing before I quit...... it's one of those too good to be true deals. You need TWO Unlimited Access accounts in order to transfer pirate. Funny how Disney doesn't mention that they don't let you move pirates to a Basic Access account. I thought transferring pirates might have been a fix to it, ITS NOT. This goes back to the whole money-hungry thing. Disney isn't dumb, they are doing everything they can to get money from their players. I don't know about the rest of you but if ONE family was sharing ONE account that had FOUR pirate, and they wanted them transferred, I don't think anyone is willing to pay $40 for it to be fixed so everyone can play online again. All of it is a scam to get more money to Disney.

I guess you must have a lot of patience or started to get more involved in RL distractions. AGAIN, like I said in a previous post, unless you are in the same boat, you do not know what its like. There were 8 of us that sent e-mails to Disney when linked accounts were removed. We all got the same response, or we got ignored. If they cared about their players, they would take the time to go through the e-mails instead of replying with an automated response. As to the updates, yeah they will update when they are ready, but how long are you guys willing to wait? I waited a year and some months, and that was a year to long in my opinion. ALL the new updates are geared towards NEW players not EXISTING players. How can they ask for player's opinions if they don't even listen to them?

Good long time players have quit the game for a petty reason, and the majority of the fault lies with Disney. I'm glad I quit, I left this pitiful game behind along with the true trouble makers and instigators that it has. Sorry if my "crying" bothered you or anyone else but that's my view on it. If you can speak your mind so can I.

I guess this thread took a turn in the opposite direction but it didn't seem like players that were leaving or players that had left were posting on it. If the rest of you can post your opinions we certainly can too. I refuse to send my opinion to Disney. They only make decisions on whether or not they will make a profit, not if it really affects the "small number" of players. Guess I'll be "crying" a lot to get my point across. :)

Agreeing with ben, email will just have an auto responce sent by a Bot, As far as I know disney doesn't use bots for their phone. If you want disney to actually know your quitting or canceling your membership, Give them a call. After I got banned twice in one week, I used linked accounts so I can get in when I was Banned, but I never was banned since I created the linked accounts so I never used it.

I dont know why its OUR fault for abusing the "glitch" If its disneys fault they didnt make the system work better, making it impossible to get to another account if the one your going to is banned.

Disney, I know this isnt a sucurity feature. Its because you want more money. You think its just ok for people to go with level 40 characters (Or in my sisters case a level 29 that was worked hard on) and start over on another, NEW Unlimited account. Disney, your plan to make money, is loosing money. So I suggest that you put linked accounts back into effect to prevent anymore people from quiting the game or canceling their membership.

Edit: Woah something just glitched something or somehow on my computer or POF, this post was supposed to go under Raikel's post

YES, thank you, I wish I'd written that.

It IS all Disney - sure, maybe people complained about people avoiding bans by linked acounts, but DISNEY COULD HAVE HANDLED THE SITUATION MUCH BETTER. As has been brought up ten trillion times on here since the tabbed account updates, it would make loads more sense to release a SOLUTION, one that solved the problem WITHOUT screwing over hundreds of innocent people. There have been several logical, reasonable solutions proposed right here on POF.

Let's face it - there are VERY few people who are optimistic or satisfied with where this game is going. Even players who have decided to stay with the game are complaining left and right.

Has anyone else noticed how many Disney complaint threads there have been since the tabbed accounts were removed? Even threads that weren't intended to be (ie this one) have turned into bash Disney threads. Why? Because there's so dang much to complain about! No one in the Pirates Online community feels like Disney cares about their wants and needs. Reporting "feedback" to Disney is commonly thought to be a joke. Nobody knows what is on the horizon for the game - Disney has called island makeovers "new content" and has lied outright about content releases and game updates - Disney said the tabbed accounts would remain on open, which they obviously haven't. We can't trust a company that has so clearly lied to loyal paying customers and apparently has little or no respect for the playing community. Why should we, the customer, support and respect a company that has so little respect for us?!

I know alot of people are very upset about the removal of the linked accounts but how many mmorpgs let multiple users access the same paid regular account at the same time, none that I know of. The way I see it Disney tried something new with the linked account set up, never advertising the ability to play the same account multiple times, but it got abused. Not just griefers but alot of people played for free as an unlimited using linked accounts. As to what anndreeuhh said about a family of four paying $40 to play together thats the way it should be its still cheaper than taking that family of four to the movies once a month.. I do not see Disney fixing anything with the linked accounts because, and I agree, its not broken anymore they just fixed it every unlimited player should pay for their own account just like everyone else.

This has been a rough patch for many of here - espically since it was a) mentioned in earlier posts that the "transfer" to live shouldn't happen (though I really didn't believe this) and b) many of us have family and friends who used the feature.

We all know its a money grab - families need two unlimited accounts now. But as much as I'm not impressed, Travis does make the good point though - really 4 accounts @ $40, is still a steal in todays games (I was talking with a WoW player who he and his son play - and the two accounts are costing him over $30 a month...)

This thread though did take a mis-guided turn... its purpose was for those who were upset to a) contact Disney and b) post your results - not for us to debate amongst ourselvs on the topic :D

So post your results, has anyone sucessfully transferred their pirates, has anyone sent in messages and gotten "non-robotic" responses? :)

Disney use to outsource there customer service emails and complaints they are now all in one department, could it be cuts caused by the economy sure it could. Fact is its all in one department and they are dealing more closely with the complaints of their customers.

You want something accomplished pick up the phone and talk to them, emails seem to be a waste of time unless your trying to make a paper trail. That can be said of most online email complaint systems. That's not unique to Disney.

According to a live Disney customer service person, the linked accounts were being used to get around suspensions AND terminations. Whos fault is that, its Disneys for not having better system for banning and terminating members accounts.

Now that they have changed their system and closed the loopholes a lot of pirates are out of luck, they cant play anymore,that's whats supposed to happen when your banned or terminated.

As was stated before no online games let you play like pirates did linked accounts ect, was it used to suck people into the game , could be, do they want to be paid for their game now by forcing families to open two paid accounts if they want to play , im sure they do. Be happy for the time you did get playing on Disney dime cause this is NOT the norm in the gaming industry nor is it good business practice.

I respect your enthusiasm Max, but they'll do nothing for us, and they will just send an automated thank you at the most.

Guys Disney ALWAYS wants to update, but why aren't they? Well Disney really can't. Most people in America can't buy memberships or go to Disneyland, therefor they can't really update. No money equals no updates. This seems to be the main cause why people are leaving. Most people in America are losing their jobs, now would it be necessary to buy something like a computer game, when you need that money for food and water? No its not. So don't blame Disney

The irony here, is this is an old thread, and they have actually added some major updates since this thread went quiet ;) The economy had nothing to do with it.
Times may be hard, but they arent quite that dismal. Since it is one of the least expensive games, and can even be played free within limitations, ability to pay for the game has not yet been given as a reason for leaving the game. Most of those here on POF stated when/if they left the game that the lack of content updates were the reason for their departure. A few have said that it wasnt worth paying for until updates came along, and left the 'unlimited' realm and played occasionally basic while waiting for content updates as well.

The new updates are nice but im somewhat unhappy that they havent released everything they promised considering that this is the end of the year. What happened to the new loot and inventory system? They said it was for the middle of the year, but when i asked in the grog blog, Cayman told me it was for the end of the year.... One thing is that they have not given us the Sept and Oct game insiders, and after the invasion there hasn't been an update yet... Earler it used to be that on the 20th of the month the update will be on test and on 31st or 1st of next month they would release it.... Disappointing that i don't see Ship Custom, the Kraken or anything they promised out by now, but i still would like to play on because Pirates is a fun game and i know they are going to come out with something, and anyway January is when im gonna play next.

Yea, this thread must be an undead raised by JR himself hehe :) As it is - it's funny that they have added several releases since this was made, even though D themselves have had to make some cuts to their staff.

It's just good to see them making progress in the game again after it sat for so long - now maybe we're gonna get somewhere.

Promised is a bit extreme, they mention that they were working on these items - no company promises delivery. Since there was no mention of JR, invasions, or the new ghosts to arrive on the scene and where that may be going - no one can't say they aren't delivering something now (and if a storyline is next then so be it - if it includes the kraken all the better - but I don't want that silly fish if it means no story line...) I never really cared about the kraken that much (now new Ships or Ship Custom - that my fortee :D).

Aye, the eekonomy has soured, but I 'm willing to give up that one small cheese pizza delivered to me house once a month to be able to play 24/7 on POTCO!

Except maybe the mail service. xD

Yeah, I'm willing to wait a little while longer for things, seeing as invasions will keep me busy.