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Nack 03-23-2009 11:55 PM

do you find any weapons annoying?
 
ive found people will hate weapons like dagger, grenade, gun and maybe even cutlass.
this is a poll to state the weapon you hate:sadmh9:.



NOW GO POST!!!!!!

Dr. Zeppers 03-24-2009 12:03 AM

Grenades without a doubt, if for no other reasons than...

1. Hardest to obtain
2. Hardest to level
3. Although some uses, generally the least useful.

Davy Sharkmenace 03-24-2009 12:07 AM

i agree with zep 100%.

salty 03-24-2009 12:14 AM

I Agree with Zep Grenades are way hard to level unless you max them right when you get it.

Pluss they are just anoying its like throw wait 5 trillion years to reload then throw again.

edwardburnskull 03-24-2009 12:49 AM

no I like grenades, they're my favorite. daggers suck because they do so little damage.

Dan_OB 03-24-2009 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OFxZeppers (Post 125640)
Grenades without a doubt, if for no other reasons than...

1. Hardest to obtain
2. Hardest to level
3. Although some uses, generally the least useful.

Well said Zep! They take the most time and effort and give the smallest reward. Except that you are so glad when you do master them. The game would be better without them.

jason davy 03-24-2009 12:56 AM

Definitely grenades. Haven't had any issues with any other weapons. Grenades are just a pain in the butt.

akamystic 03-24-2009 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OFxZeppers (Post 125640)
Grenades without a doubt, if for no other reasons than...

1. Hardest to obtain
2. Hardest to level
3. Although some uses, generally the least useful.

Aye.........



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The Skirata Clan 03-24-2009 01:15 AM

What a waste of weapons, those Grenades.

Kat Five Knives 03-24-2009 01:19 AM

A grenade secret:
Use your mouse to click on the grenade you want to throw. Then alternate pressing the control key and click on that icon. You will throw faster. Thanks to Ulysses for telling me about it -- try it -- it really works.

Dr. Zeppers 03-24-2009 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kat Five Knives (Post 125688)
A grenade secret:
Use your mouse to click on the grenade you want to throw. Then alternate pressing the control key and click on that icon. You will throw faster. Thanks to Ulysses for telling me about it -- try it -- it really works.

The most useful skill with grenades is long volley... and how long you take to throw them controls how far they go... so, thanks.. but.. eh <shrug>

jason davy 03-24-2009 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Skirata Clan (Post 125687)
What a waste of weapons, those Grenades.

Siege charge can be mighty useful though... if I'm leveling my little pirate and someone comes and steals my rep... SIEGE CHARGE! They usually leave real quick-like. ;)

But other than that- yeah, they're stinkin' useless.

Your Gladiator 03-24-2009 01:43 PM

i hate nades....... -_- i wanna choke them out lol and beat them up rofl there hard to level and boring to level

Nack 03-24-2009 02:45 PM

i want to agree with you haters but i sorda like nades cause they have several uses:

1. you can throw them at enemy ships.
2. you can throw them at regular enemies.
3. General Darkhart is useless against nades so you can get mega rep and not lose a single health point.

now think this over. And i think there is guide to the darkhart thing.

CaptainGreenGene 03-24-2009 02:58 PM

Different way of looking at it...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OFxZeppers (Post 125640)
Grenades without a doubt, if for no other reasons than...

1. Hardest to obtain
2. Hardest to level
3. Although some uses, generally the least useful.

I see the same things you do but I look at them very differently...

1) The quest for grenades is the most challenging and in most cases requires teamwork. It is perhaps the only one that is best done in teams. If done alone it requires a very skilled pirate. It is an excellent test of a players skills. No other quest is as challenging.

2) Easiest to train by far. Stand behind the fence at kingshead and go from lvl 1 to 20 in an afternoon. You go from Note 20 to Note 24 and bank 8000+ gold. You save lvl 15 thru 20 skill points and drop them all on siege charge when it opens.

3) When you have a 5 skill point siege charge you can use it to defeat otherwise undefeatable enemies like stumps. At notoriety lvl 25 stumps are still very tough to beat but with siege charges they are a snap. There are some quests that require you to defeat high lvl enemies and this is the ticket to success in that area. Also you open up two very important passives Determination which increases your health recovery rate 50% and Demolitions which increases the area of effect for your grenades and cannonballs. Both of these are very useful.

I can understand how why this isn't well understood. Most players just don't train their grenades when they first get them and then they find out later its much harder and the grenades become much less useful. On your next pirate try this and see if you don't pull out grenades more.

Evie 03-24-2009 03:13 PM

Nades are hard, definitely, but I don't think they're the worst. In fact, once you have seige, they're kinda fun. :psmiley35: And hard to get? Yeah, but a challenging quest is a good thing, and there are so few now in the game.

Pistol, on the other hand, is just as boring to level (no combos, no fun graphics, just point & click... repeatedly), and really has no usefulness once its mastered. That one I master first, and then pretend it doesn't exist.

Bartholomew Foulsteel 03-24-2009 03:26 PM

Definitely the pistol. I can't use it on Navy or EITC (and why I still don't comprehend), so it is a much more limited than any other weapon. Anything I can do with pistol I can do with dagger or staff.

Rackat 03-24-2009 03:59 PM

I vote none of the above.

Cutlass: I like it. Easy to use, fun to get the special skils
Pistol: I like it. Once you get the ability to hold down the trigger to power it up, it is very usefull and fun to use once you are high level.
Doll: I like it. Great for healing friends/guildies. Love the life drain.
Dagger: I like it. Easy to use, and the throwing skills are fun.
Grenade: I like them. It's fun to find new uses for them such as boarding flag ships and taking out NPC's with them, or standing in El Sud at the first Stump, and lobbing one down to get teh second Stump by the river to come to you.
Staff: I like it. Great for multiple close in enemies.

swashbuckler II 03-24-2009 04:08 PM

I hate the doll, The only use it has for me is life drain, and/or healing, I find grenades my second favorate weapon, fun to level, hard to get, yet im wierd. lol

AdmiralSavvy 03-24-2009 04:16 PM

I voted grenades and pistol...
Pistol I find boring and hard to level, and grenades, they are hard to level, require constant reloads, and are, in my opinion, very boring.
The other weapons I find very useful and powerful when the right skill points are applied to the right skills.

Pirate Bood 03-24-2009 04:44 PM

But I dont agree with Zep, nades are my favourite wep cos they dont cause lag and they are great on the col flag when u end up with the nasty lvl 35 crew.
I have no problem lvlin them with smoke nades and stink pot the rep is good in kingshead all the way up to lvl 20 ish and by that time u r strong enuff to survive in tormenta with them.
I cant see the fuss, I really cant.... GUN now thats a tedious story specially after the upgrade gun quests u tap-tap-tap... wait... tap-tap-tap yawnnnnnn tap-tap-tap... wait.... snorrrrr yer way to lvl 20 then they give u a paint stripper that not only decreases the amount of rep per kill but doesnt give u anything cool for all the ships u need to sink to get it and u cant swap it back... now if they gave u a 6 shooter OK, buuuut no !

Staff... pfft lagalicious! and too long to charge up, yawnnn some more! The potential with staff was endless, buuut nah!... We dont get to do the things it could do, if it could be used as a hand to hand wep as well as cast spells so u could actually clonk a thing with it then we would be lookin at a far cooler wep.
:degen:



Quote:

Originally Posted by OFxZeppers (Post 125640)
Grenades without a doubt, if for no other reasons than...

1. Hardest to obtain
2. Hardest to level
3. Although some uses, generally the least useful.


Basil Dreadflint 03-24-2009 04:59 PM

Picking staff! Actually, it would be better if it WASN'T so powerful. I know too many pirates, they get in a tough spot or a jam, and the only thing they ever reach for is staff. They become one dimensional. (BTW, I like staff, but try to not rely on it.)

Juliana Maria 03-24-2009 07:09 PM

Grenades are annoying.. not only because they take so long to get and master but they are also hard to aim with. On top of that you are ALWAYS buying more grenades. There isn't any unlimited grenade like their is for the pistol and cannon. Very costly....

Nack 03-27-2009 02:02 PM

i find my favorite is dagger and my least doll
second is cutlass
third is staff
fourth is nades
fifth is pistol

The Skirata Clan 03-27-2009 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bartholomew Foulsteel (Post 125790)
The pistol... I can't use it on Navy or EITC (and why I still don't comprehend)...

It makes no sense, right! You can't shoot them, but you can blow them up.

Adventurebry 03-30-2009 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Skirata Clan (Post 127093)
It makes no sense, right! You can't shoot them, but you can blow them up.

It's the code, you can't ask questions, you must obey. The code is law. You don't want Cap'n Teage (sp) to see you shooting a Navy officer.

Anyway, I chose grenades, also. I just can't get the hang of controlling them. As for the pistol, it is one of my favorite weapons (doll or staff is my favorite, cutlass is neutral.) because with aim, I can eaisily kill lvl. 20- skelies and creatures.

brwngator 03-31-2009 12:49 PM

who cares
 
the sword is impossible to hate
usable and powerful against anyone

pistol is annoying but fun to kill undead ppl with

doll a *** weapon at least too easy to kill ppl with

daggers almost as good as the sword once you lvl them

grenades are pretty cool but are unreal in this game

staff cool but makes killing too easy why don't the enemies have staffs

toanuju22 04-29-2009 03:26 AM

Why is it, almost all of you are grenade haters.
Its the most powerful weapon in the game.

From my views best to worst
1.cutlass
2.dagger
3.pistol
4.grenade
5.blank
5000000000000.doll
9000000000000000staff

I hate the voodoo doll and staff so much, that I hardly eve use them, even when boarding a flag ship ,
Its always trusty cutlass time.

Andrea 04-30-2009 03:59 AM

I can't stand grenades. I think I'll never master them. :(

musicalklutz 04-30-2009 05:31 PM

[QUOTE=CaptainGreenGene;125787]I see the same things you do but I look at them very differently...


2) Easiest to train by far. Stand behind the fence at kingshead and go from lvl 1 to 20 in an afternoon. You go from Note 20 to Note 24 and bank 8000+ gold. You save lvl 15 thru 20 skill points and drop them all on siege charge when it opens.


I don't understand the fence thing. I see other just farming the dudes, but when I try, they charge thru the fence and K.O. me. Could anyone give me better insite?

Until then, I hate grenades.

EDIT: I am sorry I screwed up the quote. Hope y'all get the idea.

Andrew 04-30-2009 06:22 PM

It's the grenades that I HATE

Well once you fully master them you kinda start to like them ;) but leveling them is the pain.

Luv2Travel1 05-01-2009 03:20 PM

To Musicalklutz:

Be sure you go to post #7, counting over from the broken part of the fence. Back up only 4 steps. Start with the Stink Pot and target the group. I held down the mouse button trigger until the indicator was about 60-65%, then let go.
I noticed that if I had to share the location with any other pirate, regardless of whether they were using nades or staff, the soldiers would make it through the fence. Be sure you go to a quiet server, and are there alone, or only with one other pirate who is there to help you tp back after resupplying yourself with ammo, so you don't have to sail. Try to avoid sending any more long volleys to bring over more of the group. The more the group splits up the harder it is to keep them on the right side of the fence.
Just my observations. Hope it helps!

Andrea Shorecastle/Darkcastle:dancetl6:

sushi064 04-05-2010 04:15 AM

Grenades are cool, but if you are in standard combat, you won't really have time to throw another because your enemy always comes running quickly towards you. When you throw a grenade, it seems like it has to be a spot-on hit for it to do any damage (there's no clear indicator of where the grenade will land), which is annoying. I don't like the dagger because it does so little damage by itself and if I am battling a high-level enemy, I have to switch weapons because even though I keep pounding the enemy with the dagger, my health still runs down so I have to draw the Cutlass to finish him off. Sometimes the throwing knives can be useful though.

Johnny Storm 04-05-2010 04:23 AM

Everyone has their own opinons on weapons, I personally like them all. Each has their own advantages and bad points, but this makes the game challenging and can you honestly tell me you do not want a challenge? Daggers do a little less damage but they have faster attacks along with ranged attacks and they slow enemies down quite a bit. Grenades do crazy damage so its really no prob that they take soooo long to reload. Just what I think :P

William ORoberts 04-05-2010 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salty (Post 125644)
I Agree with Zep Grenades are way hard to level unless you max them right when you get it.

Pluss they are just anoying its like throw wait 5 trillion years to reload then throw again.

If you think grenades take forever to load, you should try one of the new blunderbuss'!!!!!!

gingeeann 04-05-2010 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainGreenGene (Post 125787)
I see the same things you do but I look at them very differently...

1) The quest for grenades is the most challenging .

2) Easiest to train by far. Stand behind the fence at kingshead and go from lvl 1 to 20 in an afternoon.

3) you open up two very important passives Determination which increases your health recovery rate 50% and Demolitions which increases the area of effect for your grenades and cannonballs. Both of these are very useful.

Great advice Captain Green Gene. See his post, it really works. I shortened it, I totally agree with every bit. Well written, excellent tips.

I LOVE GRENADES.

1) I liked the quest even more before they changed it more challenging the better.

2) Paid for most of my War Frigates this way.

3) Determination is one of my favorite passive skills. My cannon rocks due to demolitions.

I will be the first to admit they can take time to level after level 20, but if you keep them out ahead of other weapons by about 5 levels it is not bad.

SteamweaverJ 04-05-2010 06:04 PM

Sorry to those who like them, but i despise nades, for all of the reasons mentioned.

I also find them noisy and messy, which aggravates my natural "antsy-ness", so they are practically useless to me.

The very last thing i will level is nades.

Bubba Bunny x 04-05-2010 07:12 PM

Ugh grenades of course lol. They take painful amounts of time to level up and it always seems that they are always gone ( keep throwing sieges for fun haha ). On top of that, grenades are the second weapon that cause damage to yourself, but they are good for attacking groups of enemies.

CarribeanThunder 04-07-2010 03:48 AM

Undoubtedly the Grenades. My Lv50 Pirate's grenades are still Lv28, and, believe it or not, I have never mastered them. Not even when the max was Lv40/Lv25. Even now, I don't level them, but I find they do good damage, and are good for killing groups of enemies. They're just a pain to train ( No pun intended ).



Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Zeppers (Post 125640)
Grenades without a doubt, if for no other reasons than...

1. Hardest to obtain
2. Hardest to level
3. Although some uses, generally the least useful.

....Let me add on to that:

4. Have a large range of explosion, and can damage you and mess you up.
5. If it does hit you as well, it can really do some serious damage, and leave the Grenade's effect.
6. The new version of the Grenades quest is tedious and annoying. I hate it, plain and simple. I miss the old quest ( And other quests - especially the Story Quests ).

Here are the good sides of Grenades, and the reasons why I LIKE them:

1. There's some thing with them where if you click the type of Grenade you are using, you skip reloading the Grenade.

2. They deal some good damage and have a wide explosive range.

3|A. Explosive, although very limited when first obtained, are good damage-doers.

3|B. Stink Pot is good for fishing up groups of enemies, although it can be risky with it's wide explosive range and the fact that it slows you down.

3|C. Fire Bomb's Burn effect is useful with the Wound effect Grenades have.

3|D. Smoke Screen isn't the most useful Grenade, is the choice of grenades because of how weak it is. However, it is very limited ( Being only 80 Smoke Bombs with the Large Pouch ), so it doesn't last forever. It also doesn't really lower the enemie's accuracy much ( But you can always assist it with Throw Dirt and Taunt - that will really lower the accuracy of your enemy ).

3|E. Siege Charge is the choice of Grenades if you want to kill a group of enemies quickly. It has a large explosive range, and is capable of dealing major damage to enemies ( I can kill a Lv50 Urchinfist/Thrall Captain in 4-5 Siege Charges ). However, it does serious damage to yourself if it detonates too close to your pirate - add that up with the Wound effect. Obviously, you don't want to use this Grenade for leveling.

So again, the Grenades are my least favorite weapon, but I still like them because of the damage they deal out.
Just my two cents, literally.

Lucas76020 04-10-2010 04:12 AM

grenades are terrible because if you have a macbook or macbook pro with only 1 button, its like impossible to aim them and lvl up

seafox 04-10-2010 03:14 PM

...wouldn't a voodoo-nade that does reverse on an enemy/enemies for a few seconds ...turn soldiers to zombies..and turn undead to living....be cool...or an atomic-nade that shows their x-ray and saps mega strength from them..but effect only last a sec or two and amount you can carry limited...or really expensive or something...


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