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Old 11-19-2011, 03:57 AM
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"What Once Was" - Area of the past

Miss the old main island layouts?

Well, have I got a good suggestion here that would "follow the story" and make sense with the game mechanics in Pirates Online.


The suggestion:

The "What Once Was" area is an area only accessible via quest-item, provided by Tia Dalma.

The quest-item would be an object (Like a totem or spell) that would magically teleport you back into time when the old island layouts existed back in 07-08. You need to be at least level 30 to obtain this item, as this could work out to be future quests that can only be completed in "What Once Was" worlds.

It makes sense because Voodoo is basically "magic", and Tia Dalma could construct some kinda object to be able to work as a time traveler device. It works with the story because she would explain how the lands have changed because of the EITC attacks and threats to the towns of the Caribbean.

Anyway, the old islands will be... well the original. EXP gain is blocked in these worlds, however, defeating enemies;talking to NPCs; and sailing to sink ships in "What Once Was" worlds that have quests that can only be completed in these worlds, would reward you the quest EXP ONLY (So, notoriety EXP gain only from quests completed in "What Once Was" worlds. And, no, you cannot earn notoriety by any of your weapons, either).

Also, only all old music would exist (which includes sailing_e.mp3). These worlds would also be in a faded scenery background color (Like, to represent a flashback or something, because you're moving in the past).

Players can see each other in these worlds, too. However, some actions done in the other world, may not be possible in old worlds.

About the inventory system working in the "What Once Was" worlds...

Shouldn't be a problem. The blacksmiths and gunsmiths would sell the old Level 5, 10, and 15 upgraded weapons like they used to. You will be able to keep them in your inventory to bring back to the present world.


Note: This suggestion is still a work in progress, but I know it could work! Just takes some effort... (Something Disney is known to be lacking, lately)
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Old 11-19-2011, 04:34 AM
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Great Idea! Love it.
Me, I only experienced the old islands ONCE, back in the first year of the game, and then, I didn't know how to, well, play the game...
I forgot my ID and Password, and it wouldn't let me create a new account, so I just left it at that. In '09, I came back. getting a new account. I would love to see the old Islands again...
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With enough feedback, we can push bringing back old island layouts for viewing to a higher priority than the other stuff that's being asked for.
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I like the integration.I'd stay all day sailing just to listen to the old sailing music.
There was a thread about it somehwere......ah,here it is.http://www.piratesonlineforums.com/f...ad.php?t=18116
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Sounds like a Jack Sparrow plan (Meaning the best plan)! I would like to see the Old Port Royal and Old Tortuga and see the old Padres as I never reached it because of the ships. And would this also make the ships we take into the past look like their original selves (Galleon helm on highest deck in past, Skeleton Figurehead)? Just hope Disney will think the idea is great.
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I sent this thread link as a suggestion to them. I hope they look at it, too.
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LOOOOOOOOVE this idea!! Would be awesome!!
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It's a good idea But hard to envision considering the development of POTCO. You just basically doubled the size of the game with one quest. Progress is not something that has been lacking just lately. Good idea but impossible for POTCO.
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Aye! i was but a lad when they changed it, I'd love to see them gain, refresh my memory.
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It's a good idea But hard to envision considering the development of POTCO. You just basically doubled the size of the game with one quest. Progress is not something that has been lacking just lately. Good idea but impossible for POTCO.
It's not technically doubling the size of the game because the old island models still exist in the game files we download.

They aren't bigger than 50 MB. That's how easy they could just implement a code to load those models again from different expectations.
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With a heavy heart, I say no. For several reasons.

1. The old islands existed so long ago, that even a lot of people on these forums would not even remember them. While there are a good handful of players that played during the times of running up the hill to Fort Charles and Cliff Diving on Padres, the vast majority of players from that time period of the game have left. Adding these islands would really mean nothing to most players. While some older players may like the addition, it just isn't worth it for them to make an update that will only appeal to a handful of people.

2. Their time has gone. While many of us, myself included, do miss the old islands, we cannot live in the past and want them back. Dwelling in the past will not do anything for you. Look to the future, and think about what really would be worthwhile in the game. Some islands long gone? I don't think they seem worth it. Their time came and went, and it is time for us to move on. Leave them as memories for us older pirates to remember with pride and say, "I was one of the few that walked those beaches."

3. Honestly, it does not fit in the game. An area of the past really just seems a little random to place, and not very applicable to a pirate world. Even voodoo has its limits. I don't think Time Travel is very pirate-like, and I don't think we should make the game too much more unpiratey than it already is. Instead of placing these old islands back in the game, I personally think it would be better to take the old layouts of the islands, edit them slightly, then put them back in the game as new islands.

While it seems like a good idea, I personally think that the readdition of the islands would not really be all that great. As I said, best to sometimes just remember those islands and honor them with pride as older players, aye? And in my opinion, they would simply lose their majesty if they were placed back for everyone to see.
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Gonna go with Fireskull on this one, I'm afraid that while I love the ol' islands I feel thats due to the times I had there with people who have long since left the game. The old maps are not better really just POTCO had a better feel. New game,new players, lots of fun people on..... you still had stuff to do ....LOL. The islands can't and won't bring that back and would just make this ol pirate sadder for the longing of old adventures. It won't happen because its been years that we have been hollering at the top of our lungs for it and its still not here but a new story line is time better spent
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With a heavy heart, I say no. For several reasons.

1. The old islands existed so long ago, that even a lot of people on these forums would not even remember them. While there are a good handful of players that played during the times of running up the hill to Fort Charles and Cliff Diving on Padres, the vast majority of players from that time period of the game have left. Adding these islands would really mean nothing to most players. While some older players may like the addition, it just isn't worth it for them to make an update that will only appeal to a handful of people.

2. Their time has gone. While many of us, myself included, do miss the old islands, we cannot live in the past and want them back. Dwelling in the past will not do anything for you. Look to the future, and think about what really would be worthwhile in the game. Some islands long gone? I don't think they seem worth it. Their time came and went, and it is time for us to move on. Leave them as memories for us older pirates to remember with pride and say, "I was one of the few that walked those beaches."

3. Honestly, it does not fit in the game. An area of the past really just seems a little random to place, and not very applicable to a pirate world. Even voodoo has its limits. I don't think Time Travel is very pirate-like, and I don't think we should make the game too much more unpiratey than it already is. Instead of placing these old islands back in the game, I personally think it would be better to take the old layouts of the islands, edit them slightly, then put them back in the game as new islands.

While it seems like a good idea, I personally think that the readdition of the islands would not really be all that great. As I said, best to sometimes just remember those islands and honor them with pride as older players, aye? And in my opinion, they would simply lose their majesty if they were placed back for everyone to see.
This. Ice, stop dwelling in the past, its not going to help and it wont brig the game back to what it was, look to the future and be happy of whats coming. like Fireskull said they would lose their feel and wouldn't be the old islands anymore, just 'islands'. I miss them, but I don't want them back, unless they replace the current ones or are added as slightly edited ones, like Fireskull said.
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With a heavy heart, I say no. For several reasons.

1. The old islands existed so long ago, that even a lot of people on these forums would not even remember them. While there are a good handful of players that played during the times of running up the hill to Fort Charles and Cliff Diving on Padres, the vast majority of players from that time period of the game have left. Adding these islands would really mean nothing to most players. While some older players may like the addition, it just isn't worth it for them to make an update that will only appeal to a handful of people.

2. Their time has gone. While many of us, myself included, do miss the old islands, we cannot live in the past and want them back. Dwelling in the past will not do anything for you. Look to the future, and think about what really would be worthwhile in the game. Some islands long gone? I don't think they seem worth it. Their time came and went, and it is time for us to move on. Leave them as memories for us older pirates to remember with pride and say, "I was one of the few that walked those beaches."

3. Honestly, it does not fit in the game. An area of the past really just seems a little random to place, and not very applicable to a pirate world. Even voodoo has its limits. I don't think Time Travel is very pirate-like, and I don't think we should make the game too much more unpiratey than it already is. Instead of placing these old islands back in the game, I personally think it would be better to take the old layouts of the islands, edit them slightly, then put them back in the game as new islands.

While it seems like a good idea, I personally think that the readdition of the islands would not really be all that great. As I said, best to sometimes just remember those islands and honor them with pride as older players, aye? And in my opinion, they would simply lose their majesty if they were placed back for everyone to see.
Comment on your 3rd item:

Uh, don't get me wrong but, you know you're playing Disney's Pirates of the Caribbean Online and not Pirates of the Burning Sea right? Pirates Online has always been unpirate-like compared to the other realistic pirate game.

Comment on your 2nd item:

Honestly, I don't see how a player could have "pride" on a game that doesn't 100% functionally works. Besides, someone could easily make a bypass and load the islands again and lie. Disney has no security what so ever, making it an easy target.

Also, don't compare real life mottoes that express "Forget about the past and move on" for this game. It just doesn't work for Pirates Online.

Comment on your 1st item:

Like I stated before, NO REAL WORK is needed to make these islands load again. Just a batch code and bam, done.

Final thoughts:

I do agree the Time travel would be a bit... off topic for Pirates Online.

I also agree they should be edited again if they decide to place it in once more.

This game isn't that important for this quote to matter:

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As I said, best to sometimes just remember those islands and honor them with pride as older players, aye? And in my opinion, they would simply lose their majesty if they were placed back for everyone to see.
Because:

1) Mostly kids are playing Pirates Online and do not understand "importance" of things.

2) They just play the game and hate to be lectured or told what to/not to do.

3) Pirates Online has a population less than 200,000 users PLAYING (not registered)
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Uh, don't get me wrong but, you know you're playing Disney's Pirates of the Caribbean Online and not Pirates of the Burning Sea right? Pirates Online has always been unpirate-like compared to the other realistic pirate game.
That is why I said lets not make it more unrealistic/unpirate-like than it already is. I am aware it isn't very realistic, that's fine. But Time travel is really pushing it. A lot. Leave that for a Sci-Fi game, not a pirate game.

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Honestly, I don't see how a player could have "pride" on a game that doesn't 100% functionally works. Besides, someone could easily make a bypass and load the islands again and lie. Disney has no security what so ever, making it an easy target.
I feel somewhat insulted by this, and I think you don't actually get what I am saying. What I meant was that we can remember with pride that we were around way back in the day when this game. Being a Veteran in this game is nothing to be proud of? I disagree with that. Perhaps you don't play this game the way a lot of us do, but I take great pride in what I do in this game, such as leading my guild. Just because a game has bugs does not mean we can't take pride in certain aspects of it. Just because you think something, does not me the rest of us think the same way. Do not assume so.

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Also, don't compare real life mottoes that express "Forget about the past and move on" for this game. It just doesn't work for Pirates Online.
Let me respond with this: I made a speech yesterday at the PIC Anniversary, and in it I mentioned how I was changed as a person, and therefore as a pirate. Just because we play pirate, we are still all REAL PEOPLE, and therefore these kinds of things still work perfectly. We are real people thinking real thoughts, so there is nothing wrong with having that kind of a mindset doesn't work. In addition, if what you say is true, then I suppose we shouldn't follow "Do onto others as you would like done onto you."

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Like I stated before, NO REAL WORK is needed to make these islands load again. Just a batch code and bam, done.
But why? Few players will really even care, and you yourself always talk about how we need content that will help people in the long term. This hardly will. People won't flock back to the game just to see a glimpse of their old islands (not for long anyway). While yes, it wouldn't take long, it just doesn't really make sense to, and it just really won't be worth it. You're also discounting all the bugs that would come with this update. You virtually are creating another world, and the testing time for that would take quite a while, when there are other updates that would be time better spent.

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This game isn't that important for this quote to matter:

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As I said, best to sometimes just remember those islands and honor them with pride as older players, aye? And in my opinion, they would simply lose their majesty if they were placed back for everyone to see.
If its not important enough for this to matter, why do we have anniversary parties for our guilds and we take such pride in them? If this game is not important, then why have I spent 4 years of my life playing it? If this game is not important, why have I made some friendships here that could easily last for the rest of my life? If this game is not important, why are we here discussing it?

Your list of Because doesn't really fit what we are talking about. I've played a lot of games with cases like that, but you cannot call a game important or not based on that. Perhaps this game is not important to you, but to me this game is very important. To a lot of people on these forums, this game is important. Do not try to assume that we all agree that this game isn't important. Important is an opinion. Of one person. Even if 99% of people believe it isn't important, there is still that 1% that think it is.

Honestly, it just isn't worth putting in. Again, while it would be an easy update, you forget all the bugs that would come with it, and from what you seem to say, POTCO would never be able to fix them all.

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